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Wankel7
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Since I have two threads to choose from....I like this one better.
I will second this....
Current Netjets pilots please stop taking extended days. There are guys and gals on the street. Lets just try it for say three months....and see what the results are?
Wankel7
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You can't say this!! Are you trying to get the union sued? This is a job action!!! It's their contractual right!!
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I'm NOT speaking on behalf of the union, just as a furloughee who would love to come back to Netjets.
I fear, however, that most of those taking extended days are the same pilots that have forgetten that there actually are furloughed pilots.
But it would be an interesting "experiment" wouldn't it? to see what would happen if all the guys & girls there "just said no"...
I'm NOT speaking on behalf of the union, just as a furloughee who would love to come back to Netjets.
I fear, however, that most of those taking extended days are the same pilots that have forgetten that there actually are furloughed pilots.
But it would be an interesting "experiment" wouldn't it? to see what would happen if all the guys & girls there "just said no"...
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About time someone started this thread. Congrats to billybob for having the balls and shame on the rest of us for not.
It's pretty simple; picking up extended days while there are pilots on furlough is the same as picking up open time. It is the furthest thing from showing solidarity that I can think of at NetJets.
The Union is afraid to say it because they feel it could be perceived as an illegal job action. Last time I checked it was an NJ pilot's contractural right to turn down an extended day request. I did it twice myself. My family and free time were more important to me than more $.
Also they want us to believe that it in no way impacts recalls directly. What they don't understand is that was never really the only facet of the issue. It's the principal that there are those that would eagerly stand to profit off of someone else's loss, under the guise of "helping" the company.
People like msculley will have you believe that staffing is not the issue, all the while pushing extended day requests out to pilots who are all too willing. I don't buy it.
The furloughed pilots have stayed quiet about it long enough. Thanks billybob for having the guts to say something first.
It's pretty simple; picking up extended days while there are pilots on furlough is the same as picking up open time. It is the furthest thing from showing solidarity that I can think of at NetJets.
The Union is afraid to say it because they feel it could be perceived as an illegal job action. Last time I checked it was an NJ pilot's contractural right to turn down an extended day request. I did it twice myself. My family and free time were more important to me than more $.
Also they want us to believe that it in no way impacts recalls directly. What they don't understand is that was never really the only facet of the issue. It's the principal that there are those that would eagerly stand to profit off of someone else's loss, under the guise of "helping" the company.
People like msculley will have you believe that staffing is not the issue, all the while pushing extended day requests out to pilots who are all too willing. I don't buy it.
The furloughed pilots have stayed quiet about it long enough. Thanks billybob for having the guts to say something first.
Gsxrguy750
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+1. Ya I run into a bunch of NetJets guys/gals on the road and when I tell them I'm furloughed most of them are compassionate and wish the best for me. But some Captains either don't realize NetJets still has furloughees or just don't give a rats ass. Im sure these are the majority of guys extending. I always make sure to talk to the crews I see out on the road to remind them of us furloughees. At my past carrier, at the end of the weekly union message, they would always mention how many guys/gals were on furlough. Haven't seen this out of our union yet.
Thanks for the kind words,
You have 10/250
Let's start with Just Say NO!
Help "US" all out
Remember "US" the guys on the street. Some of the best Nja ever found. Remember US the other fractional pilots out there looking for better wages CS Flex FO to name a few. All of us are together in this. We sink or swim together.
We need to stop fighting each other and Just Say NO.
No to crappy Pay
No to your crap work rules
No to open time and extended days
No to 5% over 5 years
No to our brothers that say it does not make a difference
I'm not sorry, I'm pissed and I have been silent tooooo long and so have you. Things are coming back and it's not Everyman for himself. WE are ONE not Nja/nji. WE are pilots of Netjets and right now is when this BULLSH!T STOPS.
The union can't do it but I can and you can. Call out every guy you see at an fbo and tell them to say NO.
I am the 495 and I will not stop
You have 10/250
Let's start with Just Say NO!
Help "US" all out
Remember "US" the guys on the street. Some of the best Nja ever found. Remember US the other fractional pilots out there looking for better wages CS Flex FO to name a few. All of us are together in this. We sink or swim together.
We need to stop fighting each other and Just Say NO.
No to crappy Pay
No to your crap work rules
No to open time and extended days
No to 5% over 5 years
No to our brothers that say it does not make a difference
I'm not sorry, I'm pissed and I have been silent tooooo long and so have you. Things are coming back and it's not Everyman for himself. WE are ONE not Nja/nji. WE are pilots of Netjets and right now is when this BULLSH!T STOPS.
The union can't do it but I can and you can. Call out every guy you see at an fbo and tell them to say NO.
I am the 495 and I will not stop
Hogprint
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Just say NO! If you don't have the stones to tell them just ignore the email. Was asked to extend for the Poker Run as a crew. It was easy as we politely said NO. As an aside they flew me there on day 6/6 anyway and couldn't get me home to the east coast! $$$$, oh and didn't get me home before noon the next either 
Do we have the info on how many are extending? I haven't heard of anyone on my fleet that is doing it, and the crew room talk most guys are adamant about not doing it. Just wondering if this is a rumor (I'm sure guys are picking up days but not en masse) or I'm just not seeing it/out of touch with other fleets?
Do we have the info on how many are extending? I haven't heard of anyone on my fleet that is doing it, and the crew room talk most guys are adamant about not doing it. Just wondering if this is a rumor (I'm sure guys are picking up days but not en masse) or I'm just not seeing it/out of touch with other fleets?
Is NetJets a job you want to come back to? I see a lot of SIC's are looking for a job outside of NetJets. There aren't any upgrades in sight and your pay is capped after 7 years. (I think)
Most of the furloughed pilots I talk to have found better jobs and won't be coming back.
I'd focus my energy on a major airline opportunity.
Most of the furloughed pilots I talk to have found better jobs and won't be coming back.
I'd focus my energy on a major airline opportunity.
And you would be incorrect. Every single pilot that I know of my fellow 495 want to come back. Even as NJA has become crappier its still better than most. Also if 1 pilot out of the 495 want to come back is't that enough its his contractual right.
Also I agree from here on out just say NO to extending period and spread the word on the line. Give it the next 3 months and watch what happens. You all will be very suprised how things change for the furloughed and how the companies position changes at the barginging table. JUST SAY NO tell everyone you know.
Also I agree from here on out just say NO to extending period and spread the word on the line. Give it the next 3 months and watch what happens. You all will be very suprised how things change for the furloughed and how the companies position changes at the barginging table. JUST SAY NO tell everyone you know.
No
And yes I would like to go back
I have not found another job as good as Nja. I have 10+ years of 135 time a few types and time as a ip/check airman at a large 135. I have no dings on my ticket. I do not have 121 time. I do have time at Nja
I will take your bait.
Not having 121 and being furloughed from Nja have killed any and all of the jobs from me. I have been told so by the people that have the "good" jobs.
So I can work for xyz flying a crj200 and go bankrupt in 6 months but have 121 time
Or
Like most of my brothers
I work my crap job and pay the bills and take care of my family and hope my brothers don't d!ck me and extend so I cand build my war chest back up and hope for a major in the process.
Being furloughed from the place that raises the bar for everyone has given us all a black eye and as such it's hard to find a job. Hr people at my own place now told me this and was the only reason they almost did not hire me.
So back on topic, I bet there are others out there like me and would like to come back
Stay strong and Just Say NO
And yes I would like to go back
I have not found another job as good as Nja. I have 10+ years of 135 time a few types and time as a ip/check airman at a large 135. I have no dings on my ticket. I do not have 121 time. I do have time at Nja
I will take your bait.
Not having 121 and being furloughed from Nja have killed any and all of the jobs from me. I have been told so by the people that have the "good" jobs.
So I can work for xyz flying a crj200 and go bankrupt in 6 months but have 121 time
Or
Like most of my brothers
I work my crap job and pay the bills and take care of my family and hope my brothers don't d!ck me and extend so I cand build my war chest back up and hope for a major in the process.
Being furloughed from the place that raises the bar for everyone has given us all a black eye and as such it's hard to find a job. Hr people at my own place now told me this and was the only reason they almost did not hire me.
So back on topic, I bet there are others out there like me and would like to come back
Stay strong and Just Say NO
brokeflyer
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I'm sorry for your friend
With all due respect
We all make choices with work and family, I'm not about to fill his front yard with rats but I'm not buying him beer.
Call the union, or call me. And then I'll call a few guys and so on. If he or anyone else wants fish come to my house and I'll give you all you want.
Don't take the fish off my line and fu@k me I'll give
We will all give if you ask but don't take. I am saying this with all due respect, he is taking and I and the other 3000 guys will give to keep people from extending. Again I'm sorry for his family
Now back on topic
Just say NO. Sometimes with respect
With all due respect
We all make choices with work and family, I'm not about to fill his front yard with rats but I'm not buying him beer.
Call the union, or call me. And then I'll call a few guys and so on. If he or anyone else wants fish come to my house and I'll give you all you want.
Don't take the fish off my line and fu@k me I'll give
We will all give if you ask but don't take. I am saying this with all due respect, he is taking and I and the other 3000 guys will give to keep people from extending. Again I'm sorry for his family
Now back on topic
Just say NO. Sometimes with respect
imacdog
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Has he heard of NJFF?
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