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Jetscream32
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Guess that means I'll be withdrawing my application to Spirit. I had an inside reference too, dang it.
Good idea, withdrawing your app. The way I hear it, Spirits pilot group is in shambles with LEC recalls everywhere, JO is coming in and they've cancelled their airplane orders for next year.
It's too bad, because they occupy the cellar of earnings and now it doesn't look like the pilot group has the cajones to change that.
Calvin,
You hit the nail on the head. The DTW LEC is voting to recall a rep (an effective and responsible individual). This is being spearheaded by two former chairpersons who were removed from their positions due to incompetence. These individuals have convinced most of the uniformed in our ranks to join in on the recall.
The future of the Spirit pilots will hinge on unity among our ranks.
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You hit the nail on the head. The DTW LEC is voting to recall a rep (an effective and responsible individual). This is being spearheaded by two former chairpersons who were removed from their positions due to incompetence. These individuals have convinced most of the uniformed in our ranks to join in on the recall.
The future of the Spirit pilots will hinge on unity among our ranks.
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Clipper, the way I hear it, the Fort Lauderdale LEC is also involved in a recall. It's something about a bunch of former management pilots being upset about losing their cushy instructor positions after a new DO was hired.
I called a friend at Spirit and inquired about all of this, and was told that most Fort Lauderdale pilots are not supporting the recall.
Does anyone know if Spirit has a pilots website, or if any of these internet forums have a Spirit dedicated page?
If you are speaking of the elected officials, they have the power because they WON an ELECTION.
I've never won a popular election, but if I had, I'd expect to be able to wield the power of the position.
Now, I've got to get back to one of the "how to get hired at FedEx or SWA" threads, good luck to my friends at Spirit.
DoubleOverHead
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October Class starts soon. 8 new hires from within, these were instructors hired last year and offered jobs when we started growth. And 8 New hires from off the street 2 weeks after the first 8 start. I think that is it for the hiring for the rest of the year. March is the target window for growth is what I hear, so new hires starting in Jan. I hear anywhere between 6-10 airplanes next year. 5 more between now and Dec.
As far as recalls are going. Well, the rank and file IE "ME" were getting wind that the current MEC was in bed with the company. From what I hear, recalls go on all the time at all the majors, so Its no big deal. All the negotiating committee is in place and they started the initial round 2 weeks ago. Of course the company put out a piece of crap offer, so let the games begin. Maybe this time we will negotiate a contract instead of having a gun to our head and forced to accept a concessionary contract again. Our last one took 4 months. Get real, we didnt even turn it down once!
As far as recalls are going. Well, the rank and file IE "ME" were getting wind that the current MEC was in bed with the company. From what I hear, recalls go on all the time at all the majors, so Its no big deal. All the negotiating committee is in place and they started the initial round 2 weeks ago. Of course the company put out a piece of crap offer, so let the games begin. Maybe this time we will negotiate a contract instead of having a gun to our head and forced to accept a concessionary contract again. Our last one took 4 months. Get real, we didnt even turn it down once!
The truth about Spirit
I am 100% for protecting flight crew jobs, getting what is fair, AND running a profitable airline. However, I neither support nor understand a group of people that cannot see the forrest through the trees. I am one of the Spirit rank and file; and I know first hand what has happened and what IS happening at the airline. The previous management pilots accomplished very little to grow and improve the airline, but feels compelled to create union discord. Spirit performs very well in some aspects, but also has many problems that if uncorrected, turns into big problems as the airline grows. The current managment team is rectifying those problems before implementing the planned growth. The short term growth plan for the airline and the overhaul of the flight ops training that has occured in the last five months has been just short of a miracle. Spirit is developing a training program (one of the previous problems) to rival any major airline and support the future.
We have the typical contract negotiating road ahead of us all. WE need to stick together as a brotherhood and fight for what is best for us ALL. The company is headed for GROWTH (benifit for us ALL). PAY and quality of life is the bottom line but in order to grow a little sacrifice may be needed. We should ALL participate and understand that the current leadership wants to be in place for a long time to increase our fleet (double by 2009) and increase our destinations (more coming in a month or two). The future is bright. Under the last leadership and past investors, stagnation was the future. The Spirit pilot group needs to stand together as a united front to ensure we get what is due (not be individuals focused on our own petty hurt feelings from past percieved wrongs) and keep in mind that we need to work WITH a leadership that has ALL our best interests in mind.
I am 100% for protecting flight crew jobs, getting what is fair, AND running a profitable airline. However, I neither support nor understand a group of people that cannot see the forrest through the trees. I am one of the Spirit rank and file; and I know first hand what has happened and what IS happening at the airline. The previous management pilots accomplished very little to grow and improve the airline, but feels compelled to create union discord. Spirit performs very well in some aspects, but also has many problems that if uncorrected, turns into big problems as the airline grows. The current managment team is rectifying those problems before implementing the planned growth. The short term growth plan for the airline and the overhaul of the flight ops training that has occured in the last five months has been just short of a miracle. Spirit is developing a training program (one of the previous problems) to rival any major airline and support the future.
We have the typical contract negotiating road ahead of us all. WE need to stick together as a brotherhood and fight for what is best for us ALL. The company is headed for GROWTH (benifit for us ALL). PAY and quality of life is the bottom line but in order to grow a little sacrifice may be needed. We should ALL participate and understand that the current leadership wants to be in place for a long time to increase our fleet (double by 2009) and increase our destinations (more coming in a month or two). The future is bright. Under the last leadership and past investors, stagnation was the future. The Spirit pilot group needs to stand together as a united front to ensure we get what is due (not be individuals focused on our own petty hurt feelings from past percieved wrongs) and keep in mind that we need to work WITH a leadership that has ALL our best interests in mind.
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Five Additional Aircraft
Saw in the news (Atlanta Journal-Constitution, actually) that there will be 5 more 319s on property by the new year...that's some growth! Does anyone have any idea what the future fleet makeup is looking like? All 319s? More 321s? Why the sudden disinterest in this aircraft (possibly lack of range?)
Are they serious about the double-the-size talk, or are these just buzzes to create interest in an IPO?
How is the pay differentiated between the 2 a/c types? I heard it is based on a fleet makeup percentage (hence my interest above)...if so, where does that stand now?
Glad to see some interest in the Spirit posts...my fingers are crossed.
gator
Saw in the news (Atlanta Journal-Constitution, actually) that there will be 5 more 319s on property by the new year...that's some growth! Does anyone have any idea what the future fleet makeup is looking like? All 319s? More 321s? Why the sudden disinterest in this aircraft (possibly lack of range?)
Are they serious about the double-the-size talk, or are these just buzzes to create interest in an IPO?
How is the pay differentiated between the 2 a/c types? I heard it is based on a fleet makeup percentage (hence my interest above)...if so, where does that stand now?
Glad to see some interest in the Spirit posts...my fingers are crossed.
gator
The 5 airplanes that are in the process of delivery (3 on property 2 enroute) will only bring us up to where we were 3 years ago. Granted I am happy to have the planes here finally. As for doubling the fleet....Just like anyone, I'll believe it when I see 70 airplanes on the flow sheet.
As for the pay rate between the 319 an 321, it's a blended payrate that, in my opinion, works very well.
keep 'em in the green
As for the pay rate between the 319 an 321, it's a blended payrate that, in my opinion, works very well.
keep 'em in the green
Freightcowboy
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Be careful about that place. I had just interviewed on the 16th of Nov and they interviewed 5 of us and only one got hired.
I didn't get it but, Indigo has bought around 51% and lot is changing everyday about how many pilots they should hire. One day is 10 the next 12 then 1.
They are trying to make more productivity out of the pilots so who knows. Spirit hasn't aggresively grown in a long time. The planes are coming but at what rate and how many pilots needed is in question
Good company, always make money like always don't put your eggs in one basket.
Good luck
I didn't get it but, Indigo has bought around 51% and lot is changing everyday about how many pilots they should hire. One day is 10 the next 12 then 1.
They are trying to make more productivity out of the pilots so who knows. Spirit hasn't aggresively grown in a long time. The planes are coming but at what rate and how many pilots needed is in question
Good company, always make money like always don't put your eggs in one basket.
Good luck
Is this a posting by the company for vacancies in DTW? I'm in the Jan 1 class (we were told 8 of us) and they were mum on bases...all this as of Wednesday (hired/HR processed same day). What's your source? Need to know if I need to bring a coat...
gatorbird
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I can't say how many they are intending to interview this week, but if it is anything like 2 weeks ago, they will also have some on Wednesday and Thursday.
The big question, though, is how much more HIRING are they planning to in the next few months. We were told (as of 2 weeks ago) that they have authorization to fill 3 classes for now. My interview group (4 of us) filled up the Jan 1st class (3) and one opted for Jan 15th. According to Spirit, they intend to place 8 in a class. SO, if you've been paying attention, that's 7 more spots.
They told our group that these 3 classes are being staffed due to increased aircraft utilization (all-nighters), not additional aircraft. The 5 319s for Nov/Dec only bring them up to the original number of aircraft before the fleet transition. With that said, the additional utilization they mentioned cannot be totally fulfilled by 24 people. Also, who knows Indigo/Oaktree's plan on additional aircraft orders?
There is a cautious optimism around Spirit right now amongst the pilots, flight ops, etc... The transition is done and there seem to be some sharp, experienced people in key roles around the company. Close your eyes, roll the dice and see what happens next!
Best of luck to any of you that may have interviews soon.
gator
The big question, though, is how much more HIRING are they planning to in the next few months. We were told (as of 2 weeks ago) that they have authorization to fill 3 classes for now. My interview group (4 of us) filled up the Jan 1st class (3) and one opted for Jan 15th. According to Spirit, they intend to place 8 in a class. SO, if you've been paying attention, that's 7 more spots.
They told our group that these 3 classes are being staffed due to increased aircraft utilization (all-nighters), not additional aircraft. The 5 319s for Nov/Dec only bring them up to the original number of aircraft before the fleet transition. With that said, the additional utilization they mentioned cannot be totally fulfilled by 24 people. Also, who knows Indigo/Oaktree's plan on additional aircraft orders?
There is a cautious optimism around Spirit right now amongst the pilots, flight ops, etc... The transition is done and there seem to be some sharp, experienced people in key roles around the company. Close your eyes, roll the dice and see what happens next!
Best of luck to any of you that may have interviews soon.
gator
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Mona Straight and PR NW Coast.....
....you should have checked out the Mona Straight between the Puerto Rico and the DR. Captain Bill's Dive shop from Rinco will take you there. The island of Desecheo and Mona island have some great diving.
Gas Chambers, Shacks and Borriquen Beach are some of the best shore dives I have ever done.
Don't get bent, dude! (and that's not a TWA/AA reference,neither)
Jeff
....you should have checked out the Mona Straight between the Puerto Rico and the DR. Captain Bill's Dive shop from Rinco will take you there. The island of Desecheo and Mona island have some great diving.
Gas Chambers, Shacks and Borriquen Beach are some of the best shore dives I have ever done.
Don't get bent, dude! (and that's not a TWA/AA reference,neither)
Jeff
More interviews this week. monday tuesday wednesday next week also. I heard they have 40 in the pool for future classes and more to come. 2 classes a month at 8 per class. Im the rank and file and this looks good. Soon as some meat gets into the f/0 ranks they can start the captain upgrades. Rumor is 6 planes next year confirmed, but 10 more options if they go with it. Also 8 new destinations overall next year, with beefing up the current schedule regarding the current destinations.
If you want to be at the top of the interview call list, you need to know somewhere here. That way they call HR and pull your application straight from the airapps website. Trust me , that is the way. I called and had 2 guys pulled, and 2 days later they were called for interviews. Recs are highly prized.
good luck!
We all have to hope, its all thats left.
If you want to be at the top of the interview call list, you need to know somewhere here. That way they call HR and pull your application straight from the airapps website. Trust me , that is the way. I called and had 2 guys pulled, and 2 days later they were called for interviews. Recs are highly prized.
good luck!
We all have to hope, its all thats left.
flyboythug
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Spirit Interview
For those that have an upcoming interview:
Start the day with a simple, straight-forward Powerpoint presentation on the company. The written test is a short (20 questions?) mix of write-your-own answer, multiple-choice and true/false. Not complicated if you've been studying the FAR/AIM, Jepp intro, and have a good grasp of 121 ops (decipher a TAF/METAR, standard ILS mins, etc).
There is a fill-in-the-circle personality test. No right/wrong answers; they just want to see what type of personality you have. Relax and try to answer them honestly.
The 4-panel interview board is made up of HR, flight training/standards, an ALPA rep, and an alternate (inflight dept, etc). They'll look over your resume, letters of rec, and logbooks. Each person has their favorite questions: What has been the greatest challenge with your current position? What if a Captain deliberately goes below mins? Something you did you thought the better of later? Why Spirit?
Do your homework on the company. Know the officers. Have a few good relevant questions for them in your back pocket. Show them you know the company and your not in front of them because you thought "flying an Airbus would be cool".
I think the questions they ask are tailored to what they know about the person in front of them. Be yourself and try to relax. There is no "prove to us your worthy" attitude; it is a very personable experience and they just want to get people they think may make a good fit.
Be prepared to defend your weaknesses. If you don't have jet/FMS time, be ready to explain why you think you can make the transition. If you don't have much/any turbine PIC, show you haven't been just "gettin' clearances and yankin' gear". Being steady under a little heat is a good attribute. Be positive and don't downtalk/badmouth your company/fellow employees.
There is no sim eval. They assume if you're there, you're qualified.
The entire process is rather relaxed and positive. It seems that if they like you, they'll hire you. Getting there (to the interview) is the tough part. The best part is you'll know yay or nay the same day.
Good luck to all those awaiting the call. It's a real up-beat time around Spirit and could be a good time to get in.
gator
For those that have an upcoming interview:
Start the day with a simple, straight-forward Powerpoint presentation on the company. The written test is a short (20 questions?) mix of write-your-own answer, multiple-choice and true/false. Not complicated if you've been studying the FAR/AIM, Jepp intro, and have a good grasp of 121 ops (decipher a TAF/METAR, standard ILS mins, etc).
There is a fill-in-the-circle personality test. No right/wrong answers; they just want to see what type of personality you have. Relax and try to answer them honestly.
The 4-panel interview board is made up of HR, flight training/standards, an ALPA rep, and an alternate (inflight dept, etc). They'll look over your resume, letters of rec, and logbooks. Each person has their favorite questions: What has been the greatest challenge with your current position? What if a Captain deliberately goes below mins? Something you did you thought the better of later? Why Spirit?
Do your homework on the company. Know the officers. Have a few good relevant questions for them in your back pocket. Show them you know the company and your not in front of them because you thought "flying an Airbus would be cool".
I think the questions they ask are tailored to what they know about the person in front of them. Be yourself and try to relax. There is no "prove to us your worthy" attitude; it is a very personable experience and they just want to get people they think may make a good fit.
Be prepared to defend your weaknesses. If you don't have jet/FMS time, be ready to explain why you think you can make the transition. If you don't have much/any turbine PIC, show you haven't been just "gettin' clearances and yankin' gear". Being steady under a little heat is a good attribute. Be positive and don't downtalk/badmouth your company/fellow employees.
There is no sim eval. They assume if you're there, you're qualified.
The entire process is rather relaxed and positive. It seems that if they like you, they'll hire you. Getting there (to the interview) is the tough part. The best part is you'll know yay or nay the same day.
Good luck to all those awaiting the call. It's a real up-beat time around Spirit and could be a good time to get in.
gator
hired in the pool and pulled out 2 days later
a friend of mine got hired with alittle bit less than 3000 hours but only had 700 turbine. got placed in a pool until he gets 300 hr turbine to meet the 1000 hr turbine requirement
2 days later, he was told that he was pulled out of the pool and he could re apply whenever he d have the 1000 turbine.
does that surprise anyone?
a friend of mine got hired with alittle bit less than 3000 hours but only had 700 turbine. got placed in a pool until he gets 300 hr turbine to meet the 1000 hr turbine requirement
2 days later, he was told that he was pulled out of the pool and he could re apply whenever he d have the 1000 turbine.
does that surprise anyone?
Not really...from what I hear they are looking for candidates that are middle of the road. No one really inexperienced, but they don't want someone with a lot of experience that can leave after six months to a year to go to SWA, Jetblue, CAL, DAL, etc...
thanks for the answer. thats what i understood as well.
but my question was about the fact that they took him out of the pool 2 days after he got put in it.
"congratulations you are hired"
2 days later :" sorry we have to take you out of the pool, reaply in 3 months when you have 1000 turbine"
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