Spirit - FO's vs Captains

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Just for the record. You need to specify the time frame for the 20k or refrain from making a statement like that because it is bad info. Not to say that the FO pay is not low. It is. But it is not 20k a year, not even on first year, not even on reserve. It can go anywhere from $35k to $50k/year depending on when you get off reserve, and weather you are willing to (or able to i.e. due to commuting) work extra. Plus per diem. My highest take home pay was over $4200, incl per diem, as a junior line holder with working 2 extra days and still had 14 days off. This was very doable living in base. Unfortunately did not last at all as I was kicked out with the rest of us fairly soon. While it is nothing to brag about, it is more than 20k and there are legacies that pay less for 1st year.

Good post. NK mid seniority (5 or 6 year) FO $65/hour. The guarantee is 72 hour and the lines usually average closer to 78 hours. If a Spirit FO of that seniority, btw most are at that seniority, flies an average line, he will make $60 large per year. That's with no OT.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Good post. NK mid seniority (5 or 6 year) FO $65/hour. The guarantee is 72 hour and the lines usually average closer to 78 hours. If a Spirit FO of that seniority, btw most are at that seniority, flies an average line, he will make $60 large per year. That's with no OT.

DAL second year first officer pay - $77/hour
third year - $90
fifth year - $95

You get the idea. I think Delta's pay rates are pathetic. Actually, I think every single airline has pathetic pay rates other than UPS and FedEx. This industry is already in the sh!tter. How much worse can it get?

 

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DAL second year first officer pay - $77/hour
third year - $90
fifth year - $95

You get the idea. I think Delta's pay rates are pathetic. Actually, I think every single airline has pathetic pay rates other than UPS and FedEx. This industry is already in the sh!tter. How much worse can it get?

You checked the pay rates for Eastern lately?

 

[boomlrd]

You checked the pay rates for Eastern lately?

You must be in management! You do not share the views of most of us! We will shut it down if need be, we make a pathetic income, the ALPA strike fund of $1400 a month is just as good for me, plus I will go get a part time job while waiting. Most of us will vote to strike, I am guessing we get an 85%+ yes vote!

 

[flyboycmsu]

I agree. Lately the impression I'm getting when talking to people is it will be much more than 85%.

 

[LITCHAT7]

Definetly more. I've yet to run into anyone that is even wavering. YEEEEEEES!

 

[flyboycmsu]

Definetly more. I've yet to run into anyone that is even wavering. YEEEEEEES!

I still can't seem to find those 8 guys (or 3 guys with 8 screen names) with so much dissention towards the Union that run the Spirit bitch board. I don't understand why they are trying to undermine the efforts to try and get us a better contract. Sometimes you have to suck up your bruised ego and work for something better!

 

[huncowboy]

I still can't seem to find those 8 guys (or 3 guys with 8 screen names) with so much dissention towards the Union that run the Spirit bitch board. I don't understand why they are trying to undermine the efforts to try and get us a better contract. Sometimes you have to suck up your bruised ego and work for something better!

That board makes me want to puke. Mostly completely useless info.

 

[boomlrd]

I have never been approved to get on that website, so they must know who I am, funny.

 

[flyboycmsu]

'They' know who all of us are. Why are you any different?

 

[Mike man]

I have never been approved to get on that website, so they must know who I am, funny.

I haven't heard of anyone from rjet making a big commotion at Spirit...why would they care who you are?

 

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All of you mad junior boys are just "whackin yourself off". The Spirit group will not strike until the MAJORITY decides that the current situation is unbearable.

All of you are pissd because you expected to upgrade in 18 months and you left the left seat of an RJ to go to something bigger. The cyclical airline business has you stuck in a bad place during down times. Suck it up like everyone else in this business who had found themselves in your position and hang on. It will get better, but you've got to wait until the cycle hits an upswing.

The older members of this profession in your group, having suffered through many more cycles than yourselves, will not walk until they know they can do better. At the present time, they can NOT.

 

[LITCHAT7]

My membership to the board mysteriously went away (couldn't log on anymore) when I stated my concern over a union rep. (hotel comm. chair.....HT.....ie "repo man") trashing his fellow MEC. He blew a gasket, and after I could'nt log on anymore. Cant be pro-MEC on that board. I log on now under a friends name yet mind my myself (dont want to get him kicked off)! My guess is the Goldman is the twisted voice of a few of those posters in question. I dont know what their game is?! I dont see what they have to gain with their pro-managment stance. It'd be nice if someone would start a "normal board".

 

[boomlrd]

I haven't heard of anyone from rjet making a big commotion at Spirit...why would they care who you are?

I guess you must not be a part of Operation Monkeywrench? I guess none of us are, but I do like saying the word! By the way, I have been through some ups and downs in the industry, Rjet was only a year of my life due to another furlough on a "big" plane, had to pay the bills. I would like to restate my opinion that we will have greater than 85% yes to strike vote!

 

[huncowboy]

My membership to the board mysteriously went away (couldn't log on anymore) when I stated my concern over a union rep. (hotel comm. chair.....HT.....ie "repo man") trashing his fellow MEC. He blew a gasket, and after I could'nt log on anymore. Cant be pro-MEC on that board. I log on now under a friends name yet mind my myself (dont want to get him kicked off)! My guess is the Goldman is the twisted voice of a few of those posters in question. I dont know what their game is?! I dont see what they have to gain with their pro-managment stance. It'd be nice if someone would start a "normal board".

Over at RAH we had a board with real names, and they still have it. It worked well and I am sure it still does. But it was not run by Teamsters. Probably a good thing. I have approached our MEC about creating a board like that but they have quoted some legal issues and I doubt it will happen. It seems the only way to do it is if it is done privately.