Sovereign vs G200 vs Challenger 300 vs G150

[SeaSpray]

So much for your "Wildly optimistic" claim, counselor. I believe your AIN ad is quickly getting filled on both pages.

I don't know why GVFlyer bothers to repond to your posts, after all with your no time and no types you're the aviation equivalent of a Brownie Scout.

You don't read his posts before shooting your mouth off either.

I always wanted to run an ad in B&CA or AIN that was simply two blank pages facing each other. On the bottom of one it would say, “Promises Bombardier has kept”. On the bottom of the facing blank page it would state, “Promises Gulfstream has broken”.

Tell me, Jo-Jo, what promises has Gulfstream broken?



SS

 

[ghostrider64]

Something you may really want to consider is how the plane actually rides and how loud the cabin is. After flying the X which is both a very good riding plane and quiet I was shocked at how poor the 200 was. Here are a few of my comfort beefs.

1) the damned rudder must bounce around like crazy in cruise flight. Compared to the X which is so stable you never notice it.

2) the cabin is horribly noisy. SO bad in fact that every flight above F180 we close the main cabin door curtain to keep it quieter and warmer in the back.

3) the APU screams literally it is louder than any other APU I've ever heard. So forget about taking off anywhere that is noise sensitive with the APU running.

4) I believe that the noise issues are a result of the thinness of the aircraft. The doors are very lightly built and I'm sure this was to keeo the weight down.

Now it may sound like I hate this plane but that is not so. I believe the plane does what it advertises it will do. It aint perfect but the price is about right for the mission and comfort it provides. Perhaps even a little underpriced.

 

[GVFlyer]

Glad you like the airplane (sorta).

NetJets required Gulfstream to remove 450 pounds from the G200 to provide more options on Trans-Atlantic flights.

Some of what was changed-out was sound deadening material.

Here are some representative noise [EPNdb] numbers.

Gulfstream G200 / Challenger CL300 / Citation X

Takeoff - 81.7 / 75.3 / 73.2

Approach - 92.7 / 89.6 / 90.3

Sideline - 85.8 / 87.6 / 83.8

So, the Baseline Technologies Sound Level Meters support your observation that the G200 is not as quiet as your previous airplane.


GV


Happy Holidays!






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[AirChef]

Yes, many times straight to F430 at max T/O weight! The plane flat stops on a dime,I still can't believe it sometimes!!! Hard to get a bad landing. good hand flyer. 78 long range cruise.

Loud cockpit, throw the anchor out once full anti-ice is on.

VERY VERY FUN to fly.

 

[NJAowner]

I can only speak for the G200, CL300 and Sovereign. Sitting in the back, there is no comparison -- the G200 is by far the best and most confortable cabin of the 3.

Fly safe and happy holidays to all.

 

[Launchpad]

Only complaint on the 300 is the cockpit noise level, I wear a headset. Other than that, no complaints.

 

[TXGold]

You mean you wear David Clarks in the 300? If so, you need to make that your Avatar.

 

[Launchpad]

You mean you wear David Clarks in the 300? If so, you need to make that your Avatar.

Although that would make a great Avatar, no I don't wear them in the 300. I rock the Sennheiser instead. Otherwise it's the bose in the floatplane. No one should have to wear Dave Clarks......... Instant headache-

 

[TXGold]

I hope to fly the 300 someday. Maybe then I will have to bust out the DC's. BTW, I have nothing nice to say about the Sovereign.

 

[ag2pilot]

I hope to fly the 300 someday. Maybe then I will have to bust out the DC's. BTW, I have nothing nice to say about the Sovereign.

Nothing? What are your main complaints about it?