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[redflyer65]

Doesn't Delta make you pay for lodging during new hire class?

That's got to hurt on a new hire salary. Don't think that's deductible from your taxes either since Delta says your based in Atlanta for training. What's that six weeks or so?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Hotel is covered during indoc, first two weeks. Then you're generally on your own during aircraft training - about a month. Exception is if you're sent out of ATL for sim training. I was lucky enough to have that happen and had a hotel and continuous per diem during sim training.

A nice room around ATL will run you about $60-65 a night with a DAL rate. Most guys were grabbing a suite at the Holiday Inn on a monthly rate for about $1400 then some were splitting it with a classmate.

Delta does give you positive space (book it yourself) travel from ATL to your home for any off-days during training. It help takes some of the sting out. Especially, if you live in MSP - those flights are HEAVILY commuted.

 

[Scoot 11]

That's got to hurt on a new hire salary. Don't think that's deductible from your taxes either since Delta says your based in Atlanta for training. What's that six weeks or so?

You're not bending over for Wavey, red!
Well, maybe that won't hurt either!:blush:
A few weeks in a crash pad compared to several thousand on buying your job. Along with a ********************ty retirement, and an 18 year upgrade! No comparison. You PFT sellouts will do anything to justify why you had to buy your jobs!

 

[FurloughedAgain]

What about those of us who earned our 737 types at other airlines or in the military? Are we PFT sellouts too?

 

[humveedriver]

You're not bending over for Wavey, red!
Well, maybe that won't hurt either!:blush:
A few weeks in a crash pad compared to several thousand on buying your job. Along with a ********************ty retirement, and an 18 year upgrade! No comparison. You PFT sellouts will do anything to justify why you had to buy your jobs!

I guess back in the day it shortened training. Can't say that now. Also back in the day people left SWA to go fly for bigger airlines. Don't see that much anymore. Since buying AT, SWA has trained APD's and is typing FAT's as they come over. So I'm hoping this 43 year old tradition goes away with all the bold and innovative changes SWA has made over the last 5 years.

 

[waveflyer]

Our upgrade keeps getting longer !

It's at less than 10 years right now

 

[General Lee]

Are you going to answer my question or not? Does Delta make you pay for lodging during new hire?

Not if you live in ATL already. Ask recent DL hires that flew for ASA (Expressjet). They probably already have lodging. Same with AT pilots that get hired before transitioning to the Cornies....



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Btw, the subject of new hires getting full lodging paid for in initial and the rest of training is being addressed in the contract survey to pilots, meaning the union (DALPA) will consider negotiating to get that changed. I hope SWAPA will also consider negotiating the pay for type requirement to go away also for non type rated pilots.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

Not if you live in ATL already. Ask recent DL hires that flew for ASA (Expressjet). They probably already have lodging. Same with AT pilots that get hired before transitioning to the Cornies....



Bye Bye---General Lee

I'm pretty sure if you already live in Atl, you still pay for your own lodging....
But keep trying to justify ghetto delta
I mean you only made what? $2 billion in a quarter-
That's pretty cheap man

 

[begsby]

AAL provides hotels during all training

 

[waveflyer]

AAL provides hotels during all training

Every airline I've ever worked for has.

 

[General Lee]

Every airline I've ever worked for has.

So, you didn't read the part about DALPA asking in the contract survey if pilots want to negotiate for that very thing? You didn't read that? What about SWAPA negotiating to get rid of the pay for type deal? Sounds like one of those has a chance to be negotiated away.....



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Herkdrv]

Our upgrade keeps getting longer !

It's at less than 10 years right now

Are you being sarcastic? Been here 6 years and I'll be lucky if I upgrade at the 15 year mark.

 

[Herkdrv]

Not if you live in ATL already. Ask recent DL hires that flew for ASA (Expressjet). They probably already have lodging. Same with AT pilots that get hired before transitioning to the Cornies....



Bye Bye---General Lee

Ok got it Delta makes you pay for training as well.

 

[General Lee]

Ok got it Delta makes you pay for training as well.

And DALPA asked in the pilot contract survey out now if pilots want to negotiate that away..... So.....will SWAPA expend capital to dump the pay for type? I'm waiting...... Looks like you could be WRONG soon...



Bye Bye---General Lee