Southwest "Poolie" calls are going out

[Mach92]

No, it's not.

Are you sure? Air Tran + SWA = love you long time F/O

 

[4 Fan Trashcan]

Are you sure? Air Tran + SWA = love you long time F/O

No more sure than you are.

 

[GuppyWN]

As of today the upgrade is 9.5 years and counting. 25 months before the first mandatory retirement so without ANY stimulus the upgrade is over 11.5 years.

Now for the bad news.

The very first newhire will have about 3,000 pilots between him and upgrade. As of today we only have about 1600 pilots 50 or older, or said a different way we will retire 1600 guys in the next 15 years.

So, in 15 years you'll be just over 1/2 way to Cappy. Put 1700 Tranny roadblocks in your way and you're in for a long row.

Gup

 

[Mach92]

As of today the upgrade is 9.5 years and counting. 25 months before the first mandatory retirement so without ANY stimulus the upgrade is over 11.5 years.

Now for the bad news.

The very first newhire will have about 3,000 pilots between him and upgrade. As of today we only have about 1600 pilots 50 or older, or said a different way we will retire 1600 guys in the next 15 years.

So, in 15 years you'll be just over 1/2 way to Cappy. Put 1700 Tranny roadblocks in your way and you're in for a long row.

Gup

Perfect thanks! What I thought a LONG ass time!

 

[nightfr8er]

But that's assuming no growth, right? And nobody leaving for "faster-moving" seniority lists at AA, CO, and USAirways as other posters have intimated.

And, what's the big deal about upgrading? We all look for an upgrade while at a regional or similar, in order to get jet PIC and a liveable wage. As most have shown already, SWA FO pay should make you more than comfortable. So, if you're not greedy for that extra $ in the left seat, what difference does another few years make? Especially if you have 20-25 years or more until retirement?

 

[Mach92]

But that's assuming no growth, right? And nobody leaving for "faster-moving" seniority lists at AA, CO, and USAirways as other posters have intimated.

And, what's the big deal about upgrading? We all look for an upgrade while at a regional or similar, in order to get jet PIC and a liveable wage. As most have shown already, SWA FO pay should make you more than comfortable. So, if you're not greedy for that extra $ in the left seat, what difference does another few years make? Especially if you have 20-25 years or more until retirement?

What's the big deal about upgrading? You better go look at the SWA pay scale. Make 120K a year or 220K a year X 10-15 years. Yea that's a lot of coin brother. Give me Captain pay anytime!

 

[GuppyWN]

Don't read too much into my post Mach92.

If we hire like Gary anticipates the upgrades will take a dive. My post is NO GROWTH.

Gup

 

[4 Fan Trashcan]

Don't read too much into my post Mach92.

If we hire like Gary anticipates the upgrades will take a dive. My post is NO GROWTH.

Gup

No growth after the 188 new hires starting January you mean?

 

[GuppyWN]

Sort of...... the 188 don't represent growth. They represent vacation coverage.

Come on! We need you.

Gup

 

[4 Fan Trashcan]

Sort of...... the 188 don't represent growth. They represent vacation coverage.

Come on! We need you.

Gup

We got your vacation covered!