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SWA is doing this stuff all the time. We all see how fast you guys taxi. It's well known throughout the industry. It's time for the FAA to step up and see that something is done to fix this.

Donuts and Whiskey shouldn't change the way these failures are dealt with.

Every body does this and you hate Southwest ..... Those aren't arguments. It's just outright arrogance. It's why you Continue to have the same problems.
 
Freebrd said:
She's over on the regional board this week, building his lead in postings and sharing his wisdom of the current state of the airline industry. Oh and further feeding her ego.
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She, His, her?
 
It's time for the FAA to step up and see that something is done to fix this
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What do you want the FAA to do? How about we use some FAA data to see who's safe?
This study only includes major U.S. carriers with a minimum of 600 flights a day on average. We calculated the number of incidents where the airlines were at fault and then divided that figure by the number of total annual flights, giving us an incident per flight ratio. We used the Aviation Herald and the Federal Aviation Administration as our sources, taking care to avoid duplicates. So, without further ado, we present you our list of America's Safest Airlines:
http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/americas-safest-airlines-011841949.html
 
rajflyboy said:
Hardly
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Got it. Some actual impartial research with actual calculations vs. your rambling BS based on partial information, and outright misinformation, and anecdotal and sensationalized stories. And in your mind, half-truths and mistruths win.

Southwest Airlines operates more flights per day, and carries more passengers per day in the U.S. than any other carrier. Things can and do happen to every carrier (although mostly minor), but as it turns out, they actually happen less to Southwest. With the exception of Airtran, they happen less often percentage-wise than to everyone else. And with the exception of Airtran and Jetblue (who operated < 20% of the number of flights), the actual number of incidents was lower at Southwest.

Yes, the FAA does look at carriers that have "safety problems." Fortunately, they rely on actual data (like numbers quoted in the study), rather than relying on the incoherent ramblings of pretentious nimwits like Rajflyboy.

Go back to your morning bourbon, Rajflyboy; at least you're more entertaining that way.

Bubba

P.S. By the way, I'd pit Southwest's safety record against any other airline. You keep forgetting to mention who YOU fly for Raj--are you embarassed?
 
The SWA cowboys were "yukking" it up on the frequency. What an embarrassment.

The SWA devil may care, we are better that everyone else because we are SWA, is getting real old...

FlyUnder
 
FlyUnder said:
The SWA cowboys were "yukking" it up on the frequency. What an embarrassment.

Sorry; are you talking about anything in particular? Is this pertinent to the conversation about this incident, or or you just lobbing a random anti-SWA grenade because you have nothing better to say?

The SWA devil may care, we are better that everyone else because we are SWA, is getting real old...

Not as old as the anti-SWA crowd who can't wait to trot out any possible negative thing they can find about Southwest, regardless of veracity or applicability, then turn to random BS when they run out of arguments. Hell, this crowd even appears to be semi-organized, with cheerleaders and everything (imagine General Lee in a letter sweater and a skirt and holding pom-poms)...

FlyUnder
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Stay classy, Flyunder.

Bubba
 
rajflyboy said:
SWA is doing this stuff all the time.
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Who do you fly for? It's always the same morons who never want to admit where they work that rip on SWA, NO CREDIBILITY at all.
 
I work at Delta and always rip on SWA.....but this thread is great!

Popcorn and fireworks as I lurk on the sidelines. My personal fave is the guy using a Yahoo travel blog to defend a safety record. Priceless!
 
LeeRoyJenkins said:
It's happening over and over again? Really?

Do you know for a fact here that speed was a factor?
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Uhhhhh,
If it happened, by definition he was going too fast, prima facie!
But by all means carry on this is way to fun...
 
Glad you are enjoying the misfortunes of fellow aviators Mr Bill. Even if you think some dudes on FI are jerks, why the enjoyment of this incident?
 
I have seen the taxiway myself with the jet in the mud. I dont believe speed was even close to be a factor. The taxiway curved and i think both pilots were head down.
 
Rip me all you want. Your facts don't come from a reliable source. You run airplanes off the runway like its no big deal.

It's well known how you operate. It's not a secret. You can't cover it up much longer.
 
Bottom line, and I take no pleasure in having this happen to anyone, but the hurried culture and push for more and more productivity at Southwest is a factor is all of these incidents, whether directly or not... pressure to squeeze every second out of the crew/plane which is something masterfully done by Southwest works its way down the entire operation and in some sense the industry... SLOW DOWN.. that's my answer to all of these incidents at EVERY carrier, even my own who thank God has had 0 fatalities in 84+ years.
 
HA25 said:
Bottom line, and I take no pleasure in having this happen to anyone, but the hurried culture and push for more and more productivity at Southwest is a factor is all of these incidents, whether directly or not... pressure to squeeze every second out of the crew/plane which is something masterfully done by Southwest works its way down the entire operation and in some sense the industry... SLOW DOWN.. that's my answer to all of these incidents at EVERY carrier, even my own who thank God has had 0 fatalities in 84+ years.
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I have never been rushed or pressured to hurry at SWA by anyone. Ever.

The hurried culture that you are talking about is a thing of the past and not around anymore. And since you don't work here I doubt you honestly know what you are talking about.
 
LeeRoyJenkins said:
I have never been rushed or pressured to hurry at SWA by anyone. Ever.

The hurried culture that you are talking about is a thing of the past and not around anymore. And since you don't work here I doubt you honestly know what you are talking about.
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Because I live in a vacuum and know nobody at Southwest? Or because I've never been a passenger in the back? Or because I've never sat in the jumpseat?

Well, none of the above. The first step in fixing a problem is acknowledging it exists.
 
HA25 said:
Because I live in a vacuum and know nobody at Southwest? Or because I've never been a passenger in the back? Or because I've never sat in the jumpseat?

Well, none of the above. The first step in fixing a problem is acknowledging it exists.
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So I guess I live in a vacuum too then because I have never seen what you are talking about while flying here for 8 years?
 
LeeRoyJenkins said:
So I guess I live in a vacuum too then because I have never seen what you are talking about while flying here for 8 years?
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Well, I'm glad in 8 years you haven't seen it. Maybe it is better now than ever, but maybe there is still room for improvement. We shall see what comes of the FAA findings of the recent events.

Fly safe.


Btw, you play wow?
 
HA25 said:
The first step in fixing a problem is acknowledging it exists.
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This will never happen with the SWA guys. They fly for SWA so they are the best of the best and never wrong.....

I once posted that I turned down a SWA interview right after being recalled from my Hawaiian furlough (I had applied at SWA before my recall and was just looking for any major airline job) and all the SWA guys had fits. They couldn't believe that someone could possible be happy where they are at and have no desire to fly for SWA when they now had other options.

SWA Bubba made the comment that SWA bashing gets old. If SWA guys didn't have such an arrogant, pompous attitude there wouldn't be as much bashing. It's a two way street.
 
LeeRoyJenkins said:
No, but I love watching the YouTube videos!! :)
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lookup Exodus Yogg+0, you'll see my guild getting a world first... and then having it taken away shortly thereafter by Blizzard...

anyway, back to the regularly scheduled FI banter.
 

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