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Actually, that's not totally true. Timing is everything in this instance. GK said they loved the 717 and had every intention of flying it through lease expiration. Based on those comments SLI 2 was passed. Then within weeks he and VDV started talking about negotiating with Boeing to get rid of them early. Trust me when I say there is no chance in heck AirTran pilots would have accepted the massive seniority loss had they known GK's real plans. We would have demanded much better global seniority since the 717 captain seats would have been going away.

There was no deal for the 717s in place when the agreement was reached. It was a well known hypothetical scenario and nothing more.
 
But you can't pay AirTran pilots the same as a SWA pilot. Just keep listening to the bs phone messages from GK and Bob Jordan that say we are one family.
Didn't SLI#1 offer that same pay right away? And SLI#2 (the one you got) delayed that for 3 years? Why don't you ask your MEC why they turned down SLI#1 without asking or getting a vote from the Airtran pilot group?
 
Didn't SLI#1 offer that same pay right away? And SLI#2 (the one you got) delayed that for 3 years? Why don't you ask your MEC why they turned down SLI#1 without asking or getting a vote from the Airtran pilot group?

I'm sure the lawyers are asking that question.
 
Back on topic.

Congrats to all for a nice earnings beat; 10% better than analyst estimates. Let's hope that these numbers continue for everyone in the industry.

Excluding items, net income was $273 million, or 36 cents a share. Analysts had estimated 33 cents. Including items, primarily unrealized losses related to fuel hedging, net income was $228 million, or 30 cents a share, compared with $161 million, or 21 cents, in the same quarter a year earlier. Revenue rose 11.6% to $4.6 billion, in line with estimates.

Operating income, excluding special items, was $485 million compared with $276 million a year earlier.

"We are producing very strong results despite a fragile economic environment," said CEO Gary Kelly, in a prepared statement. "Record revenues driven by steady growth were sufficient to overcome high jet fuel prices and produce a record operating income of $485 million."

Kelly said the merger with AirTran produced $80 million in net, pretax synergies in the first half of 2012 and is expected to produce $400 million in 2013, excluding acquisition or integration expenses.
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Didn't SLI#1 offer that same pay right away? And SLI#2 (the one you got) delayed that for 3 years? Why don't you ask your MEC why they turned down SLI#1 without asking or getting a vote from the Airtran pilot group?

Apparently sometimes you have to take the first offer from a used car salesman..... The others did well in arbitration, and they expected the same obviously.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
They just shifted the debt to unfunded Pension obligation. It will only affect the formed northwest pilots so I know you are not sweating it.

So wait, they haven't paid down almost $8 billion in debt over 5 years(08-13)??? It's all made up? Riiiight. The pension obligation is like a mortgage, with payments paid out over time, as people retire. The other debt is like a credit card bill, that actually will have $500 million less in interest payment per year when it does get down to $10 billion next year. Maybe that extra money will be used to buy more of your planes, like the deferred 30 738s? You never know.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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No, they're probably using your pension $ to buy big RJs that you're too cool to fly.
Think that's it, Gen??
 
Is that what you tell your former northwest captains. Don't worry, I go mine and we will just screw you to make it all better. Of course you can accelerate payment on one bill when you stop paying another.
 
Is that what you tell your former northwest captains. Don't worry, I go mine and we will just screw you to make it all better. Of course you can accelerate payment on one bill when you stop paying another.

I think you could easily be an airline CFO, or a lav dumper. You'd probably be a better lav dumper, though. You're full of it.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
No, they're probably using your pension $ to buy big RJs that you're too cool to fly.
Think that's it, Gen??

Nah, we'll be too busy flying your 717s. And yeah, I think that's it. The deal we got was good, it will get rid of twice as many RJs than will be added, and then add your 717s. Thanks so much. Read this again before adding your nonsense please.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Nah, we'll be too busy flying your 717s. And yeah, I think that's it. The deal we got was good, it will get rid of twice as many RJs than will be added, and then add your 717s. Thanks so much. Read this again before adding your nonsense please.



Bye Bye---General Lee

Looks we are both winners then. We buy one airline at a major international airport and the other carrier is paying us millions a month. Aint bad.
 
I think after all is said and done and we pay down AT's debt, synergies kick in we will all be winners. :)
 

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