Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

Southern Air?

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web
Register   Log in
T

timetoquit

Well-known member
Joined
May 27, 2003
Posts
128
Been hearing some good things about Southern Air! Can anyone post their experiences there with regards to scheduling, pay, hotels, trips, etc..

Also, are your 747s FMS/GPS equipped. I heard some of them are EFIS etc...

And lastly, are they hiring?
 
timetoquit said:
Been hearing some good things about Southern Air! Can anyone post their experiences there with regards to scheduling, pay, hotels, trips, etc..

Also, are your 747s FMS/GPS equipped. I heard some of them are EFIS etc...

And lastly, are they hiring?
Click to expand...

I have a friend that just got on with them. He's starting pretty soon and he seemed pretty excited about the whole deal. I know this doesn't answer your question at all but I'm so exited for the guy. Always good to see good people find good jobs! Good luck!
 
I know for a fact that once my time is up I will be calling some friends!
 
We had a guy in my new hire class at CAL, who had just quit Southern for the job at CAL. This was back in the summer of 2005. Maybe things at Southern have improved since then, but he was fairly pissed at the company.
 
propjob27 said:
We had a guy in my new hire class at CAL, who had just quit Southern for the job at CAL. This was back in the summer of 2005. Maybe things at Southern have improved since then, but he was fairly pissed at the company.
Click to expand...

There's always one, or two, or three, or four at each one.
 
I am in class now for Southern Air. At first glance it seems like a pretty good place to be. Some are getting typed right away. Everyone I have met has been really cool. They are experiencing growing pains right now with the aggressive growth. I believe they just added three planes to the rotation totaling eight. I am not sure if they are still hiring, but I think they are planning a class early next year. It is ACMI and it is freight. I have not been on the line yet but from what I hear it is ok. The biggest perk is being home based. The pilot group just negotiated pay increases with another one coming in 08. I think all the info is on www.airlinepilotcentral.com . I believe most if not all planes are FMS and one has partial efis. I think once they are fullly staffed it will be a good place to work.
 
How many days off? What are the mins and where do you send the resume? No information about pilot hiring on their web site. Thanks.
 
Human Resources
Southern Air, 117 Glover Avenue, Norwalk, CT 06850
Fax: 203-846-8130
E-mail: saiemployment @ southernair.com

PILOTS: Candidates requirements include: Comm., instrument, 3000 hours TT, 500 hrs in large group II transport aircraft, ATP, 1st class FAA medical, valid US passport.

They like to hire people with Boeing time. Days off? It's ACMI non-sched flying...
 
propjob27 said:
We had a guy in my new hire class at CAL, who had just quit Southern for the job at CAL. This was back in the summer of 2005. Maybe things at Southern have improved since then, but he was fairly pissed at the company.
Click to expand...

I don't believe you. I know him, and while he might have been "pissed" with his OE check pilot (we all are), he had a fairly good time here. Even got typed.
 
btw, what's a group II transport? Would that basically be a "Heavy"?

Have they hired without Heavy time before?
 
avgslin said:
Who is the current CP at Southern Air, or who is the best person to address the resume too? Thanks, anyone?
Click to expand...

his name is Dave Theil and I chatted with him the other day, a nice guy.. Don't have his email, but he did say that all resumes sent to HR get forwarded to him. With your 747 time, so long as it's about 500 hrs, you should be good..
 
bombinha said:
How many days off minimum in a month, you guys got on your new contract?
Click to expand...

still max of 10 days off (11 on 31 day months). I've averaged 16 days working in 2006 so far. But Oct, Nov, Dec is our heavy season and I've worked 16 in Oct, 20 in Nov and "scheduled" for 17 in Dec.

The biggest change was the inception of a "trip rig", which hits the company in the pocketbook once you hit 17 days. Goes from a 60 hour guarantee to up to a 70 hour guarantee at 20 days. Then after that, significant $$ costs to keep you out.
 
CRACKHEAD said:
Well, Aren't they going to have a class in January?
Click to expand...

One rumor says a class of 30, and another rumor says "no". Don't know. I'm not an "insider". Based upon what I've seen in the bid packages, my money is still on a January class. That's about as definitive as I can get without outright lying.

The big speculation is that all of these newly acquired aircraft will go into some sort of acceptance check (we are still flying some with former registration numbers - something we ordinarily never do) and (hopefully) an FMS upgrade. This could mitigate the need for the extra crews on the payroll for a while. But all of that is just rumor - at best.

What I feel I can say with some certainty - is that whether it is in January or April, we will need at least one more big class. Both pilots and PFE's.

Have I "weaseled" and "obfuscated" enough?
 
What about recurrent classes? Are them scheduling on your days off or is part of your days on?
Are all your 747's FMS and EFIS equiped?
Do you guys have on board laptops if performance softwares and/or weight and balance programs?
Happy Hollidays
 
bombinha said:
What about recurrent classes? Are them scheduling on your days off or is part of your days on?
Are all your 747's FMS and EFIS equiped?
Do you guys have on board laptops if performance softwares and/or weight and balance programs?
Happy Hollidays
Click to expand...

During your recurrent month, special recurrent lines are built that you bid on. You get the same amount of days off as usual then fly what's left after the 7 days of recurrent. Plan on minimum guarantee that month.

No. One with a SUD, carousels, full glass, and FMS/PMS/GPS. One with carousels and FMS and half-glass and GPS. Three with carousels and FMS and no glass, but with GPS. One with carousels and PMS, no GPS. Two junk ex-Atlas (509MC/534MC) (I think a Polar guy urinated on the cockpit carpet in one of them - whew - stinky)with Littons and no GPS. (There is a 9th and I think it is the sister ship to the SUD with full glass, FMS/PMS/GPS.) What's worse is 2 A/C have no oven. Cold sandwiches anyone?

Sorry if I laughed out loud at your laptop question.
 
Basically it is a bastardized fleet... There is no standardization across the fleet. The differences bulletins comprise nearly half of one of the AOM volumes. Maybe we will eventually have FMS units in all the planes. We have laptops onboard, but they are for maintenance manuals.

It is a great place to fly but there have been growing pains to say the least. Scheduling and maintenance can hardly keep up. Heard the Janurary class has been cancelled, but who knows it may still happen.

BTW, a Group II aircraft is a jet with a TOGW over 41,000 lbs, if I remember right. If you meet the requirements send in a resume, you might get a call!
 
Is this you folks, how big a DC10 fleet are they planning?This came from registaion web site and it shows a Southern Air buying a NWA DC10.date shown is Dec 12 .
Hub: Hartford | IATA: 9S | ICAO: SOO | details
C/NMSNlast updatemodelregistrationremarksformer airlineformer reg.delivered to13246579DC-10-30N221NWStored at Marana (MZJ) / to be convertedNorthwest AirlinesHB-IHESwissair
 
Seriously, are Gillies and Llanos still there? This will be of concern to those of us that are old SAT.
 

Share this page

Latest posts

Latest resources

Latest media

Carbon Cub FX-3 Shenandoah Valley
Carbon Cub at Kittyhawk
FX-3 in the backcountry
IFR Panel in a Carbon Cub FX-3
Cub-Provo-UT-c.jpg
Back
Top Bottom