Southern Air accident in Cairo?

[dutch747]

I heard today this is being classed as an "Accident" and that the captain was a young guy. Too bad for him, now he will permanently have that stain on his records. Kiss goodbye any major airline job.

THIS is why you want to steer clear of any company who doesn't keep their acft in good MX condition.

 

[Dream2fly]

He might get a chance at some majors!

U mess up, U move Up!!!

 

[WabiSabi]

I heard today this is being classed as an "Accident" and that the captain was a young guy. Too bad for him, now he will permanently have that stain on his records. Kiss goodbye any major airline job.

THIS is why you want to steer clear of any company who doesn't keep their acft in good MX condition.

If this accident happened due to a maintenance issue, then why would this blemish his record? I guess it could be a pain in the @ss to have to explain it. Even if it was his fault, it wouldn't necessarily preclude him from employment at major airlines.

I know a guy that ran an airplane off the end of a wet runway with a known tailwind and he was hired at UPS.

 

[dutch747]

If this accident happened due to a maintenance issue, then why would this blemish his record? I guess it could be a pain in the @ss to have to explain it. Even if it was his fault, it wouldn't necessarily preclude him from employment at major airlines.

I know a guy that ran an airplane off the end of a wet runway with a known tailwind and he was hired at UPS.

And maybe right now at UPS they wouldn't hire him. We really need to wait till the facts come out but from what I'm hearing, a contributing factor to this incident was the MX condition of the acft. If this is true, my POINT is that companies who continously allow their acft fly with multiple DMI's really need to re-think this practice. I'm not throwing stones at Southern Air in particular, but flying an acft with dmi stickers everywhere will eventually bite you in tha @ss. This is a perfect example.

Hiring standards at airlines change at the drop of a hat. I hope this doesn't hurt this kids future. My regards to the crew.

 

[dakotaHC8]

I heard today this is being classed as an "Accident" and that the captain was a young guy. Too bad for him, now he will permanently have that stain on his records. Kiss goodbye any major airline job.

THIS is why you want to steer clear of any company who doesn't keep their acft in good MX condition.

After your backpedal on the second post, I can see that you already decided that blaming this event on maintentance (based only on heresay) is unprofessional at best...

 

[dutch747]

After your backpedal on the second post, I can see that you already decided that blaming this event on maintentance (based only on heresay) is unprofessional at best...

As a crew member I am sounding off about how I feel about flying with MEL items that seem to never get fixed. If that is unprofessional, so be it.

 

[Dream2fly]

As a crew member I am sounding off about how I feel about flying with MEL items that seem to never get fixed. If that is unprofessional, so be it.

If you are not coming over to join us, please be professional. I am glad we don't have many grumpy people at Southern.
Have a wonderful life at World.

 

[C-141/C-5]

Everybody I talked to at southern (pilots and maintenance) seem to be unsatisfied, misinformed, and given equipment that's unsat. Being professional is doing your job to the best of your abilities and the companies job is to provide you the tools to do your job to the best of your abilities. If management is not providing you tools to do your job(safe, maintenace free airplanes) then that's an unprofessional outfit. Dutch is merely stating that the longer you accept pieces of sh*t and make the operation work they will keep making you fly pieces of sh*t, but as soon as that same pice of sh*t causes an incident then who is to blame???? Will that same company who forced you to fly that piece of sh*t airplane get your back or will they blame the "negligent pilot". Dutch's post is something every "PROFESSIONAL PILOT" should take into account. Being a Professional Pilot is more than accepting an airplane that maintenance or mangement thinks is airworthy. Last I checked the Captain is the final authority and if it dosen't pass the sniff test take a second look.

What is a Captain?

The Captain is the AUDITOR. He is the last piece of the puzzle accepting safety prior to flight. Maintenace is pushing the airplane, mangement is pushing the airplane, scheduling is pushing the airplane, Dispatch is pushing the airplane, that pesky FO wants to meet T/O time. The Captain does not trust anyone and makes sure everything is safe prior to takeoff. The only individual on any flight who shouldn't want to fly is the Captain until it is proven to him that the plane is worthy.

This post is not intended to sling mud, but it's intent is to remember our roots as professional pilots and fly safe especially over the Holidays.

Fly Safe and MERRY CHRISTMAS!

 

[dakotaHC8]

As a crew member I am sounding off about how I feel about flying with MEL items that seem to never get fixed. If that is unprofessional, so be it.

Yeah, right... Sure you were.

 

[pilotbrain]

And maybe right now at UPS they wouldn't hire him. We really need to wait till the facts come out but from what I'm hearing, a contributing factor to this incident was the MX condition of the acft. If this is true, my POINT is that companies who continously allow their acft fly with multiple DMI's really need to re-think this practice. I'm not throwing stones at Southern Air in particular, but flying an acft with dmi stickers everywhere will eventually bite you in tha @ss. This is a perfect example.

Hiring standards at airlines change at the drop of a hat. I hope this doesn't hurt this kids future. My regards to the crew.

It wasn’t the pilot fault, the ground crew said that the chocks where in so the capt. Released the brakes went to the back of the airplane, before the FE had a chances to do his walk around the airplane rolled into the building. The plane has little damage, but because it’s a noise loader it will be down for awhile