firstthird
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I'd say get the liner for the jacket but not the zip out one, just the permanently installed liner (thinsulate).
Reasoning? Pretty much the main time you wear your jacket is waiting for the van or the walk around, both 5 - 10 minute experiences. If it is cold enough to take your jacket on your trip (nov-mar) then you'll want the liner. If it isn't, you're not going to zip it out and still drag along the jacket. It isn't like we're hiking 6 hours through the woods and want a wind breaker. If it is in the marginal temperature zone where you may want but don't need a jacket, many guys will tough it out for all of 5 minutes for the walk around rather than drag a leather jacket arond on a 4 day for one or two preflights at 50 F.
Thus, the only time you take it is when it is COLD and you'll want the liner for that.
p.s. if you were navy think of it as winter or summer weight nomex flight jacket. I never even wore my summer weight (for the reasons stated above). I'm not sure how the no liner compares to summer weight, but the liner leather is about the same as winter weight but nicer.
Reasoning? Pretty much the main time you wear your jacket is waiting for the van or the walk around, both 5 - 10 minute experiences. If it is cold enough to take your jacket on your trip (nov-mar) then you'll want the liner. If it isn't, you're not going to zip it out and still drag along the jacket. It isn't like we're hiking 6 hours through the woods and want a wind breaker. If it is in the marginal temperature zone where you may want but don't need a jacket, many guys will tough it out for all of 5 minutes for the walk around rather than drag a leather jacket arond on a 4 day for one or two preflights at 50 F.
Thus, the only time you take it is when it is COLD and you'll want the liner for that.
p.s. if you were navy think of it as winter or summer weight nomex flight jacket. I never even wore my summer weight (for the reasons stated above). I'm not sure how the no liner compares to summer weight, but the liner leather is about the same as winter weight but nicer.