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TriStar_drvr

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A few items for those of you inerested in ATA ( and for those tired of seeing nothing but SWA stuff on this board. Just kidding :) )

First of all, effective November 18 the new System Chief Pilot will be Captain John Graber. Current Chief Pilot Dave Lindskoog will become the director of training on that date.

A small class of 737 FOs started training on November 4. It consisted of three new hires and three recalled flight engineers.

The results of the recent base/status bid had a total of 58 757 FO positions, 31 737 FO positions, and 3 L1011 FO positions left unfilled.

Also, another base/status bid with more 737 and 757 captain positions is anticipated for sometime in the spring of 2003. This should result in more open FO positions as current FOs upgrade.

The company and the union have agreed to let scheduling build lines up to 90 hours for the month of December to cover shortages of crews while the training department attempts to catch up.

Finally, to those interviewing next week. Good luck, and enjoy the trip to Indianapolis. Hope to see you on the line soon.

Brad
 
I've had an application in with ATA for 20 months and have had very little return information. I finally got the toll free number to HR and found out my app was out of date an needed to be redone. But before I could get a new app, I had to get a letter of recommendation from the ATA employee that has been trying to get me an interview for over a year. Go figure. Thank God for military stoploss, or I would be out on the street like so many others. Anyway, I did find out that the above info is true, but when and how much hiring will happen is anyone's guess. If you would like the 1-800 number just let me know, but I think you need a personal rec from an ATA employee to get the paperwork. Good luck.
 
Brad,
Any idea what the current timeline is from interview to notification to training is right now?
 
I'll confirm that

I talked w/ an ATA captain yesterday and he said that the only apps going out for the immediate future are to the people in the "short pile" who have a LOR from an ATA employee. I guess if you don't know anyone who works there its pretty useless to keep sending in requests........... Oh screw it I'll keep sending in an updated resume just to be a squeaky wheel.

Rice
 
LOR, not necessarily...

I leave for my interview tomorrow, got the call a couple of weeks ago and I don't know anyone at ATA. Keep sending in those resume updates! Good luck.
 
rican - Latest rumors on classes are maybe a 737 class in December. Seems like a strange time to have a class to me but we're really short on people right now so who knows. Also, probably an L-1011 and a 737 class each month for at least the first three months of '03. And throw in a 757 class or two in there somewhere as well. This was the latest that I heard before I left Indy a month ago for L-1011 school in Atlanta. BTW, the L10 is one of the sweetest machines you could possible imagine. I feel soooo fortunate to get hired by someone that still flies them. Good luck to all with your search for the perfect job. Contrary to popular belief, they ARE still out there!
 
Hey Bill,

I hope you guys are studying hard at Spondivits! I just got back from my first IOE trip. The L-1011 is definately a cool airplane. Apparantly, I need more practice landing, though. 365K pounds of metal definately can come down hard!

Scott
 
Mesascott,

Congrats on your job at ATA! I too would love to fly the Tristar one day - I have always been a fan.

I noted from your bio that you have experience on the EMB-145. How was the transition from an all-glass cockpit BACK TO dials and switches? Was that difficult? Do you miss the moving map for navigation, etc.?

Also, when you were hired, were you given the option to select other aircraft types in the fleet like the 757 or 737-800? Personally, I would choose the Tristar as well - looks like a lot of trips to the Middle East coming up...


Cheers
 
Starshipper,

There are many things about the E-145 that I miss. When I was flying the RJ, there were many times when I commented on how lazy the FMS was making me. I just started flying the L-1011, but it seems like I have to do a lot more thinking in this plane.

Going back to the round dials was not a big deal, but I sure do miss the moving map.

See ya!
 
Starshipper-

When ATA calls to offer you a class date, they tell you then what aircraft you'll be in. I believe that you are not given a choice. However, in my class, they did allow two pilots to switch aircraft so everyone was happy.

sayagain?
 
Scott - glad to hear you're out there having fun. Talked to Abe today and he said it might be awhile before you guys get finished and we can get out on IOE. I told him that was okay with me, put me in the back of the line as Roush has some good trips coming up. :) :)

Tu - hope things are going well in Marietta, if you're still there. My sim check is Saturday.
 
Race Pilot,

Congrats on ATA! Quick question: what is Roush Air? I have never heard of it. Is that a reference to the Reserves? I noted the 727 position on your bio - where does Roush Air typically fly? Also, where will you be based for ATA? Best of luck to you.


Thanks
 
ATA class dates

I did my interview in September, and i haven't heard anything, does anyone have any information about the upcoming classes?
Thanks
 
I interviewed in in Sep. as well and haven't heard anything yet. I'm hoping for something to happen in Dec.
 
ATA Holdings To Compensate Crews Of Yachts Owned By Chairman
Tuesday November 19, 12:13 pm ET


WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- ATA Holdings Corp. (NasdaqNM:ATAH - News) Monday said it signed an agreement to compensate the crews of two yachts owned by the company's chairman and said the yachts will be used for business purposes.
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In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the company provided details of the agreement, one of the several lease and sublease agreements it has signed.

The company said it is providing the documents as part of its efforts "to follow the spirit" of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act and SEC rules.

Sarbanes-Oxley aims for quicker and more complete reporting of corporate information and stricter accounting oversight.

The agreement for the use of yachts is between ATA Holdings and two entities owned by its chairman and chief executive, J. George Mikelsons. One of the entities, Betaco Ltd., owns a 125-foot Feadship motor yacht with accommodations for eight guests and crew. The other entity, Betaco Inc., owns a 52-foot yacht with accommodations for four guests and crew.

The filing said that historically the vessels have mostly been used for business purposes by ATA Holdings. Prior to Jan. 1, the company wasn't charged for its use, the filing added.

The agreement, dated May 1, was amended in July to provide that ATA Holdings will employ the vessels' crews, consisting of a captain and seven others. The salary of all the crew members is $325,160, including $100,000 for the captain, the filing said.

The company will be reimbursed if in any fiscal year the salaries exceed 75% of the fair market value of the company's use of the vessels, the filing said. The fair market value of the usage of the vessels by ATA Holdings would be determined by the company's internal audit department and reviewed by Ernst & Young LLC, the filing said.

ATA Holdings, Indianapolis, owns American Trans Air, a low-cost airline.

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For those of you who do not know A FEADSHIP is the G-V Luxury and I can not say Luxury enough, its the GULFSTREAM OF THE PRIVATE YATCH WORLD. I LIVE IN FLL AND IT GETS NO BETTER THAN A FEAD. SO WHAT IS THE GOVT PAYING FOR ISNT THAT MORE THAN THE CAPTAINS MADE BEFORE THE CONTRACT. ADVERTISEMENT, WHO FLYS ATA THAT WOULD BE ON A FEAD I FLEW HIGH END CORPERATE NO ONE, I HOPE AT LEAST THE FRLIGHT CREWS GET A LITTLE TIME ON IT, JUSt A head up NEXT TIME YOU GO INTO NEGOTIATIONS
 
Starshipper - Roush Air is a part of Roush Racing, owned by Jack Roush from Michigan that owns Roush Engineering and many other endeavors. We fly mostly to airports near where the races are held although we do a good bit of Charter work for various sports teams, musical artists, etc. Mostly domestic but an occasional Caribbean or South America trip. Not sure where I'll be based yet with ATA although it looks like Indy initially but flying all over the world. Not too much use for the L-10s in Indy anymore. It's just our maintenance base.

irflyer and rican - I don't have anything official but the rumor is still that there may be a small 737 class in December and then several classes in early 03 to include mostly 737 and L10 but a few 757 as well. Good luck to you both.

Duke 6 - I don't understand the end of your first post or most of your last post but you're right about the Feadship, it's really nice. I've talked to a few guys who have been on it. All I can say is..........IT'S GOOD TO BE THE KING!!!!!!
 
I have no problem with making money, and maybe i'm jumping the gun here a little bit. I just Feel that if the KING is going to go to the federal government and ask for money the least they could due is hide the fact they are out sailing around on 40+ million private boat that cost more to operate an hour than one of your L 1011(maybe your whole fleet of L1011). I just really feel that their are a lot of people in management really taking advantage of this situation. And by the way I flew for a CART team and know what a FEAD ship is used for. I have also been in the NASCAR AIRFORCE say ROUSH RACING (aka Mark Martin #6) people are more likely to know who you worked for.
 
Just got back from the interview. We were told that there are 12 in the pool, possible December class but not sure what airplane or how many. They are interviewing 24 a week right now and the impression I got is that they want to hire everyone. We'll see in a week or two.
 
Duke 6 - You definately have a point. Just wish I could have one of those ships of my own. Oh well, I can dream..............
 

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