Small World

[OrionFE]

I get a call from one of the USA Jet pilots that I used to work with. He tells me a story about a guy he sat next to while flying on an airline. This guy he is talking to is a retired DAL MD-11 Capt. They chat a bit more and it comes up they are both ex-military, the ex DAL pilot mentions he used to fly P-3's. The USA Jet pilot says oh we had some P-3 guys flying for us and mentions my name. The ex DAL almost spits out his peanuts. The ex DAL guy was my PPC when we flew the P-3’s in Vietnam. We did alot of very long missions together. He left the Navy in the summer of 1969 and I had not heard of him since. We got to swap phone calls yesterday and will get together sometime in the next year. It was fun catching up. He was truly a lucky guy, hired a DAL without a college degree and never furloughed his entire career. So watch out when you spread wild stories about what you flew and where you flew. You are only 3 pilots away from someone who knows you. BTW both of our kids are pilots

When I was a young FE wannabe, I did a cross country to the West Coast with an old Chief who was giving me some training. We went out for a few brews with an old retired navy buddy of his, who turned out to be my dads old high school buddy. When I eventually got stationed there, my dad and his buddy hooked up after 28 years! Truely a small world.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

What is a PPC?

 

[Sonny Crockett]

I am not the one that brought it up. BTW I am not against the degree, my stance that you start flying, build hours and do your degree on the side. This way you could be 24 years old with a 4-yr. degree 2500 hours TT, 1500 ME, and perhaps even a jet type rating. Those are the numbers that make a resume look good. How do I know I have seen too many succeed going this route. I have also seen NJ; SWA, etc make it without a degree. I just offer a different route from the "You must go to a 4 year college before you start flying" I don't why this is such a hot-button issue.

PilotYIP,


I am with ya! I was a 60 College Credit wonder that was a NAVCAD-got hired at UAL when I was 27-and finished my degree on the side before hand.

My Degree is WORTHLESS....

I would take a "Hard Knocks" Pilot anyday. I have no idea why people are SO WRAPPED around the AXEL about a Four Year Degree!

 

[OrionFE]

What is a PPC?

Patrol Plane Commander = Captain

 

[pilotyip]

A true believer

PilotYIP,


I am with ya! I was a 60 College Credit wonder that was a NAVCAD-got hired at UAL when I was 27-and finished my degree on the side before hand.

My Degree is WORTHLESS....

I would take a "Hard Knocks" Pilot anyday. I have no idea why people are SO WRAPPED around the AXEL about a Four Year Degree!

A true believer, I tell you, here is a true believer, a man who has seen the light, a man who has been released from the bondage of "You must go to a 4 yr college". Welcome aboard brother. BTW. You can be a P-3 A/C, but a P-3 A/C is only allowed to fly on non-mission events. A PPC is mission qualifed in all mission areas of the airplane. Goes back to the pre-WWII era, they were called PPC's on the PBY's

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Patrol Plane Commander = Captain

Interesting. When I was in the Navy ('80-'03), you had to be a commisioned officer to be a pilot, which required a 4 year degree. The marines still had some enlisted navigators, but not RegNav.

 

[pilotyip]

Not true

Interesting. When I was in the Navy ('80-'03), you had to be a commisioned officer to be a pilot, which required a 4 year degree. The marines still had some enlisted navigators, but not RegNav.

When Layman (sp?) was Sec Nav he brought back the NavCad program. A number of pilot/NFO's were admitted without a degree.

 

[OrionFE]

When Layman (sp?) was Sec Nav he brought back the NavCad program. A number of pilot/NFO's were admitted without a degree.

And now they have the Enlisted to Pilot program. If selected, you become a W2 and fly P-3, C-130, DC-9, C40(B737) or H60's. Not a bad gig if selected.

 

[Sonny Crockett]

Interesting. When I was in the Navy ('80-'03), you had to be a commisioned officer to be a pilot, which required a 4 year degree. The marines still had some enlisted navigators, but not RegNav.

Wrong-

NAVCAD 1986-1991 Open to prior Enlisted or Civilian, one of the BLues, slot guy (#4) was a Navcad (mid 90's).


"TWICE THE PILOT HALF THE PAY"

 

[Way2Broke]

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I too got a A in psych, yes, even a ex-USA Jet pilot can do it. I agree, not everyone has to walk down the same road to get to the ultimate destination.