Small plane crashes into Tampa Building

[UnAnswerd]

"Okay, here's the book, go out and do your preflight, be sure and drain the tanks, I'll stay in here and check the weather. Oh, and why don't you let me keep the keys....."

I'm pre-solo. I always pre-flight alone, and the keys are always hanging on the DG. If I really wanted too, I could start up, taxi out, take off, and be gone. I don't because I fear the jail time, and I think my instructor might get a little mad.

 

[Eagleflip]

Yee-Haw!

Winner of the "Old Thread Dredged from the Depths of Cyberspace" Award.

 

[Kream926]

ban 'em

 

[UnAnswerd]

ban 'em

On what grounds?

 

[UnAnswerd]

bringing up a 3 year old thread

I had no idea that was in defiance of forum laws.

 

[Wankel7]

Wtf Mate!

 

[O-Line]

Ban him for being an idiot! "Landing and airplane is scary" "what is RVSM", the guy's screwing with ya

 

[UnAnswerd]

Ban him for being an idiot! "Landing and airplane is scary" "what is RVSM", the guy's screwing with ya

More than a few uphold your contention. However, if you looked at my posts, including the two cited above, you'd see they were simply questions asked in a manner appreciative of someone willing to reply. Nothing more. Those like yourself, contesting that it's somehow something "more", are perhaps the source responsible for all the drama. I don't think it is me...

Of course, my fate will likely rest with the moderators. I trust in their judgement, but fear it could potentially be altered by all the drama commencing from the simple act of asking questions. We'll see...

 

[wrxpilot]

I have to agree that was pretty annoying to see this thread and think Sh&t, not again!! Then I saw it was referencing the original. WTF, how did he even dig this thing out?

 

[User546]

I opened this thread thinking "Again??" and had clicked on the news article and made it to the second post before I realized this was from 2002.

Tree-Hugging Hippy...

SOOOO since we had to drag this up from the ashes lets put this spin on it:

What do you think would've happened today if this would've happened, and also how would the media have portrayed it?

 

[UnAnswerd]

What do you think would've happened today if this would've happened, and also how would the media have portrayed it?

User, nice to see someone a little more light-hearted. After all, I've done nothing wrong here.

As far as the potential media portrayal, not sure. But the media coverage alone wouldn't by any means improve the overall public perception of GA. Within what seems like a 3-week period, we've seen a Cessna violate restricted airspace, a turbo-prop crash, an airshow mishap, another airspace violation, an airplane crash-land on a golf course, a student drown in Lake Michigan, and a helicopter land on a city street. What's interesting though, is that if you compared these aviation accidents to say...motor vehcile accidents, GA would look pretty safe, and that's because it IS safe. But the media wont cover even your typical fatal vehicle accident, because after all, who's going to care? Sadly, fatal vehcile accidents are a daily occurence in this country. But nobody thinks twice before stepping into thier car each morning. Nevertheless, by covering every and any aircraft accident, the media may just manage to make us look so much worse than we really are....

 

[User546]

Thank goodness though that they don't cover every accident!

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/AccList.asp?month=5&year=2005

In May alone there were 88 accidents, in which 38 people lost their lives. For every one story you hear on the news, there's 50 others that go unreported.

Imagine the public perception that would be caused if they really reported all the accidents.

 

[UnAnswerd]

In May alone there were 88 accidents, in which 38 people lost their lives. For every one story you hear on the news, there's 50 others that go unreported.

Imagine the public perception that would be caused if they really reported all the accidents.

Very intersting. As a contrast, here is a chart showing motor vehcile accident statistics over several years:

http://www.disastercenter.com/traffic/Crash88_.html

Notice that at any given time, a general average of more than 3000 fatalities occur every month!!! Any you said 38 people died in May???? Here we are dealing with close to 10 times that amount for motor vehicles!!! Again, nobody thinks twice about stepping into the car, but a few mishaps give GA a bad rap....wtf???

 

[prpjt]

Notice that at any given time, a general average of more than 3000 fatalities occur every month!!! Any you said 38 people died in May???? Here we are dealing with close to 10 times that amount for motor vehicles!!!

Would you like to give that math another shot?

 

[Kream926]

better go get the e6beeezer

 

[TrafficInSight]

I had no idea that was in defiance of forum laws.

It's not but it's very bad form on a message board. Threads with no activity for the last month or two should be laid to rest with the following exceptions:

1.)Threads with good info that need "resurrecting" to share the info again.
2.)The rare time when it's funny to say "Hey guys look where we were 3 years ago."

 

[Kingairrick]

It's not but it's very bad form on a message board. Threads with no activity for the last month or two should be laid to rest with the following exceptions:

1.)Threads with good info that need "resurrecting" to share the info again.
2.)The rare time when it's funny to say "Hey guys look where we were 3 years ago."

Also: Any thread with links to naked pics of hot women.

 

[mayday1]

Notice that at any given time, a general average of more than 3000 fatalities occur every month!!! Any you said 38 people died in May???? Here we are dealing with close to 10 times that amount for motor vehicles!!! Again, nobody thinks twice about stepping into the car, but a few mishaps give GA a bad rap....wtf???

keep in mind that there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of cars on the road every day, compared with just thousands of GA planes.

I have not done the statistical analysis, but I did read somewhere the GA is about 7x more "dangerous" than driving.. and this figure came with a set of assumptions I don't remember.. the point is, flying is as safe as you make it.. don't be mislead because there are more car accidents/fatalities.. I bet the ratio of cars on the road to car accidents is less the GA planes in the air to GA accidents.

 

[wrxpilot]

But nobody thinks twice before stepping into thier car each morning. Nevertheless, by covering every and any aircraft accident, the media may just manage to make us look so much worse than we really are....

Unfortunately hopping in your car is CONSIDERABLY safer than GA flying. It's about on par with riding a motorcycle. It's a wonder I live through the days I ride my sportbike down to the airport!

The nice thing though is that GA pilots usually cause their own demise, whereas motorcyclists are typically taken out by an errant car driver. Being in control of your own destiny is a good thing (usually!).

 

[UnAnswerd]

Would you like to give that math another shot?

For the given ten-year period, the average number of fatalities per month was 3,155. Pretty close to 3K, considering I didn't make exact calculations the first time.