ACL65PILOT
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FDJ2....did you know that there are NWA pilots who hired on to fly 19 seat Metroliners?.....How does that fit into the "career expectations" argument.....I believe they even got DOH.....
There were Delta pilots who flew DC-3s, what's your point?
Yup, and those business plans have changed about six times since then. When was that last AE supposed to be out? What am I hearing now? January? In the meantime, that bad, old NWA PWA keeps awarding new positions, every month, like clockwork.
"No significant changes" and from the CEO of NWA plays very well at the arbitration hearings.
Better yet, it makes fantastic testimony about how you can't make any agreement (especially one like a SLI) based on what management MIGHT do.
Nu
You are an advocate of "career expectations" as a way of merging lists are you not? How do these pilots relate to DAL pilots in terms of "career expectations"?
Kinda like all those retirements you guys WERE going to have? Your A320FO on the stand loved giving speaches trying to convince anyone that attrition should be used in this case.
nevermind
Career expectations are subject to "the vagaries" of this industry. Nevertheless, none of the NWA pilots are bringing metroliner jobs to the merger. So what's your point?
I'm an advocate of maintaining what you bring to the merger, or put another way maintain jobs, maintain pay, maintain status, no wind falls at anothers expense and minimize detrimental effects to career expectations. Sound familiar?
Memorable quotes from the hearing:
CROSS-EXAMINATION of NALPA witness LK
Question: Just not going in any particular order, at least not in the order of the slides. Let me just start by asking you, with respect to this so-called attrition argument that you're sponsoring, can you tell us whether there has been any case decided under ALPA merger policy in which an arbitrator has actually adjusted the construction of the list, put aside conditions and restrictions, adjusted the construction of the list based on attrition?
Answer: I cannot.
RECROSS-EXAMINATION
Question: My question is, are you aware of any seniority integration arbitration awards in which arbitrators have expressly rejected attrition --
MR. KATZ: I'm going to object.
BY MR. FREUND:
Question: -- as a basis for creating a seniority list?
MR. KATZ: Mr. Bloch, I object.
CHAIRMAN BLOCH: I'm going to allow that as the last answer.
THE WITNESS: I don't think I'm qualified to answer that. I'm not familiar with the legal process of all this.
MR. FREUND: I doubt that's true, but I'll accept that answer, and we'll demonstrate it later.
Thank you.
That's all I have.