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Juniorspanked

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Thanks for flying the lost comm procedure for the Salt Lake 8. Now I get to hear that the Salt Lake 8 is a radar vector depature only 4 times a day.
 

Flyingdutchman

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Reserve sucks doesn't it ?
 

501261

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oh christ you haven't heard long till you hear Orange County!

Is it really nessasary to state the clearance freq, ground freq, and that you need to read back hold short instructions?
 

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You know what I think. I think Juniorspanked knows better and this is just flamebait, but I'll respond anyway. I'm not with Comair so I have no bias here, but the reason for the ATIS reminder that the SLC 9 is a radar vector, is because for some reason, Aero Mexico pilots think that they can just take off and head on course. The've done it more then once and finally an Aero Mexico plane came close to putting one in the side of the mountain about a year ago. This is nothing new. It's been on the ATIS for a long time. Probably 99.9999% of aircraft of given the SLC9 departure. It's just runway heading, vectors on course. Hey, Juniorspanked, aren't you tired of listening to the other things that repeated on ATIS's at every airport. If you're so petty, maybe you should go find another career!
 

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501261 said:
oh christ you haven't heard long till you hear Orange County!

Is it really nessasary to state the clearance freq, ground freq, and that you need to read back hold short instructions?

I'm with ya on that one.
 

everyonedoa360

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Comair: ready to taxi, Ramp: Comair, do you know where spot 22 is? CMR: Yes. Ramp: Ok, Taxi to 22. Ramp: Umm, Comair, that is not spot 22, do you know where Spot 22 is? CMR: Un, ya. Ramp: OK, go to spot 22. Ramp: Comair, you are getting further away from spot 22, do you have a 10-9 chart? CMR: Yes. Ramp; USE IT. Ramp again: just stop comair and contact ground 133.65

Pay for training, What wisdom you have gotton. But I know how we (Skywest) are bring the airline pay down.
 

N813CA

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Comair hasn't been in SLC for the last 4 months plus. So as a comair pilot that filed his SLC Jepps a long time ago, please tell me how this is our fault??????????????????
 

rtmcfi

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Aww fer cripes sake! How about you slc dudes go operate out of cvg for awhile. See if you don't foul up somehow, then throw your stones. I have heard more than one OO crew flub it up at ORD. Come to think of it, there is not one airline I have not heard screw up and get yelled at. Find some other way to feel superior. You come off like a petty ass.
 

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The longest ATIS? Remember IAD in 1998 to 1999? THAT was the longest with all the construction.
 

uncle

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What about the repeat at DCA to "remain clear of the two prohibited areas..."
 

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"Comair: ready to taxi, Ramp: Comair, do you know where spot 22 is? CMR: Yes. Ramp: Ok, Taxi to 22. Ramp: Umm, Comair, that is not spot 22, do you know where Spot 22 is? CMR: Un, ya. Ramp: OK, go to spot 22. Ramp: Comair, you are getting further away from spot 22, do you have a 10-9 chart? CMR: Yes. Ramp; USE IT. Ramp again: just stop comair and contact ground 133.65"

I don't know what charts the Mormons issue you guys but the few times I've been to SLC the spots referred to don't even remotely resemble anything on any chart I have. That place is a clusterfukc.

I'm not bragging about CVG either. You could talk to three different ramp controllers just trying to get to your gate. Also, why are we the only airline that calls ops "exceptions". I know why, but it's still stupid.
 
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ASApuppy

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The Comair reference was from an incident that occurred 2-3 years ago when a Comair crew turned east at night right after takeoff(very big mountains for those that haven't been here). Freaked out the controller and hence, we here that it is a radar vector departure ever since. I do feel it is time to let that go, put it in bold on the SID plate and let Darwin take over. While we are at it, lets add the maintain 250 kts to the DP as well and save a whole lot of friggen time getting clearances.
 

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OK, why does JFK tell you "In the interest of noise abatement please use the assigned runway."? What runway would you use other than the one they assign you?
 

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...it is a radar vector departure ever since...

ASApuppy, the SLC9 has always been a radar vector departure. It's just that some don't fly it that way.
 

Wasted

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dmbmarkt said:
OK, why does JFK tell you "In the interest of noise abatement please use the assigned runway."? What runway would you use other than the one they assign you?

Haven't you ever had to ask for some runway other than the one they first give you?
 

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Caveman said:
I don't know what charts the Mormons issue you guys but the few times I've been to SLC the spots referred to don't even remotely resemble anything on any chart I have. That place is a clusterfukc.

I've been doing SLC turns for the last 3 weeks and the Taxi spots are right on the money with our Jepps.
 

CitationLover

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what about RWY 18/36 being closed at ORD. it's onnly been that way for a long time.
 

BlackPilot628

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CitationLover said:
what about RWY 18/36 being closed at ORD. it's onnly been that way for a long time.

This it true. I'm tired of hearing that myself. Maybe people still try to line up on it or something.
 
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