SkyWest - USA Today

[Oakum_Boy]

WTF, are you named after a Pakistani mountain eagle or something?

 

[COOPERVANE]

As far as the union drive goes Goose, I too have grown tired of some of the pro-union drivel I have seen over the past year.

I grow tired of the veiled threats, do it or u'll be sorry, Jerry will whipsaw you, shrink you, transfer airplanes, staple you to the bottom of ASA list, never get a job at an ALPA carrier, etc.. I don't like those tactics.

However......

Are you REALLY worried about losing 2% of your pay? REALLY? I don't even notice it.

Just ask yourself this. Do I have more to gain or more to lose with ALPA? Do I have more to gain without ALPA? HOW will voting in ALPA HURT you?

I am really glad I can refuse an aircraft without fear of ANY reprisal. I am glad I can call in sick without ANY reprisals. I am glad that my job is protected even if I make a stupid mistake. I am glad I have a representative to speak for me in dozens of areas.

Will that deductable 2% really hurt you that much?

Just get all the fact and make the best descision for YOU. Even if it's no....just vote.

Coop

 

[Oakum_Boy]

2%. Nothing. Your girlfriend's tampons will cost you more.

 

[ROSWELL41]

What I love at SkyWest is how many former Mesa/TSA pilots (with a whopping 3-6 mos on property) claim to be experts on why we don't need ALPA. Don't try and tell me you came here because its a non union workplace!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Well,
You might note I referred to UAL,DAL, F9 dispatchers relaying "HOWGOEZIT" messages. I was frankly shocked to see WX, TURB pireps, and other pertinent info ACARSed to the flightdeck. xPoop pisses me off that he can come on this board and spew his particular venom without reply. I just think if you are gonna run with the pack you better keep pace, and he hasn't. He deals in untruths and half lies that his gamma ray(or whatever he is downwind from) pea sized brain picks up from the company website. If he wants to be a "real dispatcher" then he can start relaying something other than screwscheduling notices. His world is 300 miles or so from civilization. When I want a pimply faced 20 year old kids opinion about my career, I will turn to the right and ask my F/O to chime in. xPoop if you google collective bargaining and read anything except the propaganda from the f&h website you might be more evenly educated. But you won't, you will just read the anti-union drivel posted on the company website and come back here and show just how shallow your education is. I never meant to disparage "real dispatchers" just xPoop and his ilk.
PBR

 

[PBRstreetgang]

What I love at SkyWest is how many former Mesa/TSA pilots (with a whopping 3-6 mos on property) claim to be experts on why we don't need ALPA. Don't try and tell me you came here because its a non union workplace!

They are the same ones who when I ask, how many local meetings did you go to? Say wellllll, none! WTF do you think the MEC is going to do if you don't show any interest in your career. I have also flown with 2-3 year Mesa F/O's who are a pleasure to fly with, competent, and squared away. They also say if ALPA weren't there the cornholing would have been worse that it was. Those 2-3 month clueless wonders were the very same pilots who couldn't or wouldnt have been hired as little as 3-4 years ago. Because they are clueless, and SKYW is desperate for warm bodies, and they almost qualify.
PBR

 

[Ineedabrew]

Where did XPOO go? Hope he is o.k.

Alpa is comming, Alpa is comming run for hills XPOO.

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

Look at it this way. I don't like paying car, home, medical and life insurance. But I do because it is a neccessary evil. Do insurance companies always pay or perform? The answer is NO. But when all factors are legitimate and honest, and premiums are paid, they do perform. Consider ALPA to be career insurance that you may hate to pay but you do because you will be grateful that day you need them most. The pilot group at Skywest has long outgrown SAPA and is in need of representation.

Yogi

 

[PCL_128]

When I want a pimply faced 20 year old kids opinion about my career, I will turn to the right and ask my F/O to chime in.

Now that's funny. :beer:

 

[BoilerUP]

What I love at SkyWest is how many former Mesa/TSA pilots (with a whopping 3-6 mos on property) claim to be experts on why we don't need ALPA. Don't try and tell me you came here because its a non union workplace!

Did you get my PM on that other website?

"No need to acknowledge..."

:beer:

 

[Stifler's Mom]

XPOO,

You need to take a serious break from FI. You have about 20 posts on about 5 different threads, and all of them are about you rambling on and on about this whole ALPA thing and SKW. You're going to label yourself as the next HelloNewman of FI if you're not careful.

You come across as somebody who's going to end up in a clock tower with a high caliber rifle.

Holy cow, you're coming unglued.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

You guys are hilarious. Sorry, never went to flight school, never wanted to be a pilot. High school aptitude tests showed that I lacked the required god-complex and self-righteousness in order to sit behind a mic and metal stick all day with another person in a cramped space bitching about no APU or an autopilot deferred, while also having to beg my dispatcher for another 5 minutes of fuel on my way to LAN where the weather is P6SM SKC. Also, my back would never be able to put up with a different hotel bed every night. I'm also pretty sure my skin couldn't withstand the amount of radiation a pilot gets subjected to flying around all day. Let alone, I'm definately sure my heart couldn't withstand the amount of stress envolved in worrying about the next management carrot hanging over my head as if the amount of money the company pays me is the lone deciding factor on if the airline is going to turn a profit or not. I've just never been able to put myself ahead of anyone else they way you guys can. That's why I dispatch, this way I can help 20-30 of you pilots out at the same time. This way I can get you to your overnight on time, so you'll have more time to hit on that hot flight attendant while your away from teh wifey on a 4-day. You'll be well-rested and ready to go the next day. I'd much rather just sit back and be the Teller to your Penn. I'll be the guy that sets you up to look good day in and day out, so you can go to management and thump your chest and tell them how valuable YOU are to the company and how much more money YOU need to make. We in dispatch support the pilots, its good to see you guy could care less about us. I can do my job without you, its you who can't do your job without me.

I hate to burst your bubble...but I flew here for well over a decade without having a single dispatch release, and somehow did just fine without ya!!!!

 

[COOPERVANE]

Where did XPOO go? Hope he is o.k.

Only surfs at work in between rolling his eyes when those whiny pilots ask for bug washes.

MEL not listed on the release? Whiny pilots

Alternate required but not listed? Whiny pilots

pushing 14 hours? Wow, whiny pilots

 

[Andy Neill]

Look at it this way. I don't like paying car, home, medical and life insurance. But I do because it is a neccessary evil. Do insurance companies always pay or perform? The answer is NO. But when all factors are legitimate and honest, and premiums are paid, they do perform. Consider ALPA to be career insurance that you may hate to pay but you do because you will be grateful that day you need them most. The pilot group at Skywest has long outgrown SAPA and is in need of representation.

Yogi

Just from the aspect of insurance, the rule I have followed in life is to self-insure whenever possible. Insurance comapnies are still in business because they take in more money than they pay out. I carry liability insurance but I don't carry comprehensive or collission because I can cover those costs.

If you want to insure your profession (or income at least) develop you financial position to where you don't rely on a job. Worked for me.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Or get a military retirement, but that doesn't help the 23 year old new hire though!
PBR

 

[XPOO]

Where did XPOO go? Hope he is o.k.

Alpa is comming, Alpa is comming run for hills XPOO.

I'm here. Just hanging back reading. Not interjecting anymore. The vote will be turned down, for the third straight time. The defeat may not be 2 Nays to every 1 Yay, like last time. But it still won't pass. So, I'm done. You all have until Nov. 7th to figure out your excuses. Talk to you all then.

 

[Andy Neill]

Or get a military retirement, but that doesn't help the 23 year old new hire though!
PBR

So why isn't the 23-year old setting sights on the military. If enough leave the airlines, that would certainly increase the pressure on management to improve compensation packages.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

So why isn't the 23-year old setting sights on the military. If enough leave the airlines, that would certainly increase the pressure on management to improve compensation packages.

Managment will lobby congress to change work visa's and residence permits to attract foreign workers before they will improve compensation...

 

[Mookie]

With all due respect, Andy...

Why not make the Airlines a place where we don't have to do a huge walkout to get a decent livable wages for first officers? Yours is a self serving argument that does nothing to stem the consistent degredation of my profession.

Mookie

 

[Andy Neill]

Not the way I see it Mook. It's nothing at the airlines in particular. I think that is good advice for anyone who would rather decide their own fate rather than relying on a job. How would this argument serve me?