Skywest to fly for US Airways

[CFIT]

I'd say I'm about 1000 times more informed on the status of negotiations, and how most line pilots feel at the combined UAL/CAL when it comes to scope. Enjoy the props.

Don't forget to wear ear plugs in that metro liner junior. Being deaf on top your being ignorant would be a terrible combination.

Let's just hope that 20 years of precedence, is reversed.

That's right, everything that's been given up has been by mainline, has been by choice.

You can complain about your mama all you want, but all the regional flying has been structured by mainline pilots from the onset.

If you want it back, pay for it.

It's called; "Negotiation Capital".

History has shown, mainline wont.

Talk is cheap.

Bite it, balloon knot.

 

[Nightrain_080]

Hey nimtz,
Check the rates now Nutsack.
You and jetjunk need to get a room.

 

[propsarebest]

that would be awesome. us air could take psa's RJ7s and give them to SKW to fly!

Just like what Alaska did to Horizon!

 

[Jetjockey]

Let's just hope that 20 years of precedence, is reversed.

That's right, everything that's been given up has been by mainline, has been by choice.

You can complain about your mama all you want, but all the regional flying has been structured by mainline pilots from the onset.

If you want it back, pay for it.

It's called; "Negotiation Capital".

History has shown, mainline wont.

Talk is cheap.

Bite it, balloon knot.

Next time you jumpseat on mainline, ask the pilots how important scope is.

The paradigm has shifted since 2001. Past precedence is not a guarantee to future events. Just how many contract negotiatons have you seen in your career? You underestimate the resolve and power mainline pilots hold this time around. Any pilot with half an ounce of aspiration to make it to somewhere better is behind the fight for mainline to strengthen scope. All you do is come with childish, immature names to call people who disagree with you. It shows your level of intellect, and lack of maturiry.

 

[RJLoser]

Next time you jumpseat on mainline, ask the pilots how important scope is.

The paradigm has shifted since 2001. Past precedence is not a guarantee to future events. Just how many contract negotiatons have you seen in your career? You underestimate the resolve and power mainline pilots hold this time around. Any pilot with half an ounce of aspiration to make it to somewhere better is behind the fight for mainline to strengthen scope. All you do is come with childish, immature names to call people who disagree with you. It shows your level of intellect, and lack of maturiry.

So scope is important. I agree. What are you saying exactly? Your previous post made it clear.... only props for you. Is that what you're stating? How important scope is........is up to you.

 

[lindsaya99]

that would be awesome. us air could take psa's RJ7s and give them to SKW to fly!

On the bright side there would be less crap to remember for my next checkride.

 

[CFIT]

Next time you jumpseat on mainline, ask the pilots how important scope is.

The paradigm has shifted since 2001. Past precedence is not a guarantee to future events. Just how many contract negotiatons have you seen in your career? You underestimate the resolve and power mainline pilots hold this time around. Any pilot with half an ounce of aspiration to make it to somewhere better is behind the fight for mainline to strengthen scope. All you do is come with childish, immature names to call people who disagree with you. It shows your level of intellect, and lack of maturiry.

I'm sure it's important, so......


Until the mainline pilots can figure out how to;

-get out out of and pay for long term contracts. SkyWest has contracts with United for the next 11 years and Delta for 7. Not cheap!

-figure out a way for a mainline pilot, mechanic, FA, and all the other employee groups to run a small jet for a profit. I'm pretty sure a majority of the pilots aren't too eager to take a 20-30-40% paycut to substain what is basically for the junior FO.

-entice every legacy pilot group to simultaneously take a monumental pay cut to convince management to bring the planes on the property. Because unless every bodies cost are in line (read increased) they wont be competitive.

-and, among hundreds of other reasons, figure out a way to rid the market for a need for small jets.


Probably not going to happen.



So, other than stomping your feet, holding your breath, and not wearing a hat, it appears there's not much can be done. Mainline lost their virginity on this flying long ago.

Just because you don't like regional's and want the flying for yourselves, is not what's called;

wait for it;

A BUSINESS PLAN?

You do have a plan? Right?

 

[nimtz]

Hey nimtz,
Check the rates now Nutsack.
You and jetjunk need to get a room.

Wow 3-5 bucks for a capt and 2 bucks for a FO. Way to fight the good fight! That override and quicker upgrades sure makes up for the mass gutting of narrow body jobs at legacies.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Next time you jumpseat on mainline, ask the pilots how important scope is.

The paradigm has shifted since 2001. Past precedence is not a guarantee to future events. Just how many contract negotiatons have you seen in your career? You underestimate the resolve and power mainline pilots hold this time around. Any pilot with half an ounce of aspiration to make it to somewhere better is behind the fight for mainline to strengthen scope. All you do is come with childish, immature names to call people who disagree with you. It shows your level of intellect, and lack of maturiry.

Doesn't really matter what you want at this point...The economy is crashing again and the majors will be in concessionary bargaining soon...100 seaters will be given up to hold onto what pay you have left...

 

[Erlanger]

Has anyone seen this scope proposal by UAL?

http://www.unitednegotiations.com/e...hensive_Company_Proposal_Summary_10-27-10.pdf

 

[XPOO]

That proposal is almost a year old, from October 27, 2010. I'm not sure anything it says is even valid anymore.

 

[Jetjockey]

Doesn't really matter what you want at this point...The economy is crashing again and the majors will be in concessionary bargaining soon...100 seaters will be given up to hold onto what pay you have left...

A true underachiever's dream. Sorry Joe, if you want to fly a bigger jet you'll have to apply at mainline. Nothing will be given up.