Skywest Pilot "Creed"

[front9]

This is my CRJ. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My CRJ is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
My CRJ, without me, is useless. Without my hair gel and ipod, I am useless. I must fly my CRJ true. I must fly my CRJ straighter than EAGLE who is trying to kill me. I must get the strait in approach before he shoots it. I will...
My CRJ and myself know that what counts in this industry is not the approaches we shoot, the noise of our engines, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the small paychecks that count. We will survive on top ramen...I will.
My Captain is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn him as a brother. I will learn his weaknesses, his strength, his coffee preferences and his annoying habits. I will ever walk around my CRJ even in the ravages of weather as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my hair against damage. I will keep my side of the cockpit clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My CRJ and myself are the defenders of Skywest. We are the masters of our flight attendants. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is mine and there is no more industry leading contract!

 

[JoeMerchant]

Because we are all adults here and I didn't think a company could be so cheesy as to have a creed. And a lot of other things I could say about indoctrination. So I figured this MUST be a total complete joke! I guess I'm naive.

How is it any different than ALPA's "creed"? I agree that they are kinda silly, but so is ALPA's....Would you agree?

 

[SkyNation]

How is it any different than ALPA's "creed"? I agree that they are kinda silly, but so is ALPA's....Would you agree?

of course he doesn't. Reciting the creed is how he, um, 'preps' before gettin' down to 'business' with the magazine!

 

[Nevets]

How is it any different than ALPA's "creed"? I agree that they are kinda silly, but so is ALPA's....Would you agree?

The difference is that ALPA doesn't indoctrinate you when you get hired by telling you, showing you, reading to you, talking to you about their code of ethics (something that is standard on many professions, sometimes called cannons) and asking you to recite it.

But I can't honestly tell you the difference between the substance of the Skywest "creed" and the ALPA code of ethics because no one has actually posted the creed yet. I'm holding out hope that the reason why is because it's a big joke.

 

[wrxpilot]

The difference is that ALPA doesn't indoctrinate you when you get hired by telling you, showing you, reading to you, talking to you about their code of ethics (something that is standard on many professions, sometimes called cannons) and asking you to recite it.

But I can't honestly tell you the difference between the substance of the Skywest "creed" and the ALPA code of ethics because no one has actually posted the creed yet. I'm holding out hope that the reason why is because it's a big joke.

Once again, NEVETS, I was recently in a Skywest new hire class and was never asked to recite a creed. I don't even remember a creed being discussed at all... Not saying it wasn't, but if it was it must not have been emphasized as I don't remember it at all.

You sure seem hung up on this... That in itself seems more bizarre than this supposed creed that may or may not exist. Go outside, get some fresh air and sunshine. In other words, get a life...

 

[BHopper88]

That's Nevets for ya. The creed was done during a 1 day leadership class done last year for FOs. Not sure if they have done the class since we started hiring again last NOV.

Still Nevets has this thing against SkyWest and boardline obsessive.... but hey that's Nevets for ya.

 

[Nevets]

Once again, NEVETS, I was recently in a Skywest new hire class and was never asked to recite a creed. I don't even remember a creed being discussed at all... Not saying it wasn't, but if it was it must not have been emphasized as I don't remember it at all.

You sure seem hung up on this... That in itself seems more bizarre than this supposed creed that may or may not exist. Go outside, get some fresh air and sunshine. In other words, get a life...

Ok, so as I suspected from the very beginning. It's a big huge joke someone made up. Thanks for the info.

That's Nevets for ya. The creed was done during a 1 day leadership class done last year for FOs. Not sure if they have done the class since we started hiring again last NOV.

Still Nevets has this thing against SkyWest and boardline obsessive.... but hey that's Nevets for ya.

You better believe I have this thing against Inc!

 

[doh]

The difference is that ALPA doesn't indoctrinate you when you get hired by telling you, showing you, reading to you, talking to you about their code of ethics (something that is standard on many professions, sometimes called cannons) and asking you to recite it.

But I can't honestly tell you the difference between the substance of the Skywest "creed" and the ALPA code of ethics because no one has actually posted the creed yet. I'm holding out hope that the reason why is because it's a big joke.

I posted the creed on page two. Go back and look. And then, like I said, laugh your ass off. But remember that every regional has some cheesy BS that they have put out. No doubt a feeble attempt to convince the FOs that they should be happy with the Sh.t the airline dumps on them.

 

[Nevets]

I posted the creed on page two. Go back and look. And then, like I said, laugh your ass off. But remember that every regional has some cheesy BS that they have put out. No doubt a feeble attempt to convince the FOs that they should be happy with the Sh.t the airline dumps on them.

Oh crap, I seriously that that was a joke you made up!

But not every regional has cheesy BS they put out. I can tell you that at XJT they didn't have ANYTHING of the sort!

 

[JoeMerchant]

Oh crap, I seriously that that was a joke you made up!

But not every regional has cheesy BS they put out. I can tell you that at XJT they didn't have ANYTHING of the sort!

ALPA has it...and it is far longer cheesy BS....Give it a rest Nevets. You hate Skywest because they aren't ALPA, then you attack them for something that ALPA has. You need help...
Code of Ethics



An Air Line Pilot will keep uppermost in his mind that the safety, comfort, and well-being of the passengers who entrust their lives to him are his first and greatest responsibility.

• He will never permit external pressures or personal desires to influence his judgment, nor will he knowingly do anything that could jeopardize flight safety.
• He will remember that an act of omission can be as hazardous as a deliberate act of commission, and he will not neglect any detail that contributes to the safety of his flight, or perform any operation in a negligent or careless manner.
• Consistent with flight safety, he will at all times operate his aircraft in a manner that will contribute to the comfort, peace of mind, and well-being of his passengers, instilling in them trust in him and the airline he represents.
• Once he has discharged his primary responsibility for the safety and comfort of his passengers, he will remember that they depend upon him to do all possible to deliver them to their destination at the scheduled time.
• If disaster should strike, he will take whatever action he deems necessary to protect the lives of his passengers and crew.​

An Air Line Pilot will faithfully discharge the duty he owes the airline that employs him and whose salary makes possible his way of life.

• He will do all within his powers to operate his aircraft efficiently and on schedule in a manner that will not cause damage or unnecessary maintenance.
• He will respect the officers, directors, and supervisors of his airline, remembering that respect does not entail subservience.
• He will faithfully obey all lawful directives given by his supervisors, but will insist and, if necessary, refuse to obey any directives that, in his considered judgment, are not lawful or will adversely affect flight safety. He will remember that in the final analysis the responsibility for safe completion of the flight rests upon his shoulders.
• He will not knowingly falsify any log or record, nor will he condone such action by other crew members.
• He will remember that a full month’s salary demands a full and fair month’s work. On his days off, he will not engage in any occupation or activity that will diminish his efficiency or bring discredit to his profession.
• He will realize that he represents the airline to all who meet him and will at all times keep his personal appearance and conduct above reproach.
• He will give his airline, its officers, directors, and supervisors the full loyalty that is their due, and will refrain from speaking ill of them. If he feels it necessary to reveal and correct conditions that are not conducive to safe operations and harmonious relations, he will direct his criticism to the proper authorities within ALPA.
• He will hold his airline’s business secrets in confidence, and will take care that they are not improperly revealed.​

An Air Line Pilot will accept the responsibilities as well as the rewards of command and will at all times so conduct himself both on duty and off as to instill and merit the confidence and respect of his crew, his fellow employees, and his associates within the profession.

• He will know and understand the duties of each member of his crew. If in command, he will be firm but fair, explicit yet tolerant of deviations that do not affect the safe and orderly completion of the flight. He will be efficient yet relaxed, so that the duties of the crew may be carried out in a harmonious manner.
• If in command, he will expect efficient performance of each crew member’s duties, yet he will overlook small discrepancies and refrain from unnecessary and destructive criticism, so that the crew member will retain his self-respect and cooperative attitude. A frank discussion of minor matters of technique and performance after the flight will create goodwill and a desire to be helpful, whereas sharp criticism and peremptory orders at the moment will result only in the breakdown of morale and an inefficient, halting performance of future duties.
• An Air Line Pilot will remember that his is a profession heavily dependent on training during regular operations and, if in command, will afford his flight crew members every reasonable opportunity, consistent with safety and efficiency, to learn and practice. He will endeavor to instill in his crew a sense of pride and responsibility. In making reports on the work and conduct of his crew members, he will avoid personal prejudices, make his reports factual and his criticisms constructive so that actions taken as a result of his reports will improve the knowledge and skill of his crew members, rather than bring discredit, endanger their livelihood, and threaten their standing in the profession.
• While in command, the Air Line Pilot will be mindful of the welfare of his crew. He will see to it that his crew are properly lodged and cared for, particularly during unusual operating conditions. When cancellations result in deadheading, he will ensure that proper arrangements are made for the transportation of his crew before he takes care of himself.​

An Air Line Pilot will conduct his affairs with other members of the profession and with ALPA in such a manner as to bring credit to the profession and ALPA as well as to himself.

• He will not falsely or maliciously injure the professional reputation, prospects, or job security of another pilot, yet if he knows of professional incompetence or conduct detrimental to the profession or to ALPA, he will not shrink from revealing this to the proper authorities within ALPA, so that the weak member may be brought up to the standards demanded, or ALPA and the profession alike may be rid of one unworthy to share its rewards.
• He will conduct his affairs with ALPA and its members in accordance with the rules laid down in the Constitution and By-Laws of ALPA and with the policies and interpretations promulgated therefrom. Whenever possible, he will attend all meetings of ALPA open to him and will take an active part in its activities and in meetings of other groups calculated to improve air safety and the standing of the profession.
• An Air Line Pilot shall refrain from any action whereby, for his personal benefit or gain, he take advantage of the confidence reposed in him by his fellow members. If he is called upon to represent ALPA in any dispute, he will do so to the best of his ability, fairly and fearlessly, relying on the influence and power of ALPA to protect him.
• He will regard himself as a debtor to his profession and ALPA, and will dedicate himself to their advancement. He will cooperate in the upholding of the profession by exchanging information and experience with his fellow pilots and by actively contributing to the work of professional groups and the technical press.​

An Air Line Pilot the honor of his profession is dear, and he will remember that his own character and conduct reflect honor or dishonor upon the profession.

• He will be a good citizen of his country, state, and community, taking an active part in their affairs, especially those dealing with the improvement of aviation facilities and the enhancement of air safety.
• He will conduct all his affairs in a manner that reflects credit on himself and his profession.
• He will remember that to his neighbors, friends, and acquaintances he represents both the profession and ALPA, and that his actions represent to them the conduct and character of all members of the profession and ALPA.
• He will realize that nothing more certainly fosters prejudices against and deprives the profession of its high public esteem and confidence than do breaches in the use of alcohol.
• He will not publish articles, give interviews, or permit his name to be used in any manner likely to bring discredit to another pilot, the airline industry, the profession, or ALPA.
• He will continue to keep abreast of aviation developments so that his skill and judgment, which heavily depend on such knowledge, may be of the highest order.​

Having Endeavored to his utmost to faithfully fulfill the obligations of the ALPA Code of Ethics and Canons for the Guidance of Air Line Pilots, a pilot may consider himself worthy to be called…an AIRLINE PILOT.

 

[Nevets]

ALPA has it...and it is far longer cheesy BS....Give it a rest Nevets. You hate Skywest because they aren't ALPA, then you attack them for something that ALPA has. You need help...
Code of Ethics

An Air Line Pilot will keep uppermost in his mind that the safety, comfort, and well-being of the passengers who entrust their lives to him are his first and greatest responsibility.

• He will never permit external pressures or personal desires to influence his judgment, nor will he knowingly do anything that could jeopardize flight safety.
• He will remember that an act of omission can be as hazardous as a deliberate act of commission, and he will not neglect any detail that contributes to the safety of his flight, or perform any operation in a negligent or careless manner.
• Consistent with flight safety, he will at all times operate his aircraft in a manner that will contribute to the comfort, peace of mind, and well-being of his passengers, instilling in them trust in him and the airline he represents.
• Once he has discharged his primary responsibility for the safety and comfort of his passengers, he will remember that they depend upon him to do all possible to deliver them to their destination at the scheduled time.
• If disaster should strike, he will take whatever action he deems necessary to protect the lives of his passengers and crew.​

An Air Line Pilot will faithfully discharge the duty he owes the airline that employs him and whose salary makes possible his way of life.

• He will do all within his powers to operate his aircraft efficiently and on schedule in a manner that will not cause damage or unnecessary maintenance.
• He will respect the officers, directors, and supervisors of his airline, remembering that respect does not entail subservience.
• He will faithfully obey all lawful directives given by his supervisors, but will insist and, if necessary, refuse to obey any directives that, in his considered judgment, are not lawful or will adversely affect flight safety. He will remember that in the final analysis the responsibility for safe completion of the flight rests upon his shoulders.
• He will not knowingly falsify any log or record, nor will he condone such action by other crew members.
• He will remember that a full month’s salary demands a full and fair month’s work. On his days off, he will not engage in any occupation or activity that will diminish his efficiency or bring discredit to his profession.
• He will realize that he represents the airline to all who meet him and will at all times keep his personal appearance and conduct above reproach.
• He will give his airline, its officers, directors, and supervisors the full loyalty that is their due, and will refrain from speaking ill of them. If he feels it necessary to reveal and correct conditions that are not conducive to safe operations and harmonious relations, he will direct his criticism to the proper authorities within ALPA.
• He will hold his airline’s business secrets in confidence, and will take care that they are not improperly revealed.​

An Air Line Pilot will accept the responsibilities as well as the rewards of command and will at all times so conduct himself both on duty and off as to instill and merit the confidence and respect of his crew, his fellow employees, and his associates within the profession.

• He will know and understand the duties of each member of his crew. If in command, he will be firm but fair, explicit yet tolerant of deviations that do not affect the safe and orderly completion of the flight. He will be efficient yet relaxed, so that the duties of the crew may be carried out in a harmonious manner.
• If in command, he will expect efficient performance of each crew member’s duties, yet he will overlook small discrepancies and refrain from unnecessary and destructive criticism, so that the crew member will retain his self-respect and cooperative attitude. A frank discussion of minor matters of technique and performance after the flight will create goodwill and a desire to be helpful, whereas sharp criticism and peremptory orders at the moment will result only in the breakdown of morale and an inefficient, halting performance of future duties.
• An Air Line Pilot will remember that his is a profession heavily dependent on training during regular operations and, if in command, will afford his flight crew members every reasonable opportunity, consistent with safety and efficiency, to learn and practice. He will endeavor to instill in his crew a sense of pride and responsibility. In making reports on the work and conduct of his crew members, he will avoid personal prejudices, make his reports factual and his criticisms constructive so that actions taken as a result of his reports will improve the knowledge and skill of his crew members, rather than bring discredit, endanger their livelihood, and threaten their standing in the profession.
• While in command, the Air Line Pilot will be mindful of the welfare of his crew. He will see to it that his crew are properly lodged and cared for, particularly during unusual operating conditions. When cancellations result in deadheading, he will ensure that proper arrangements are made for the transportation of his crew before he takes care of himself.​

An Air Line Pilot will conduct his affairs with other members of the profession and with ALPA in such a manner as to bring credit to the profession and ALPA as well as to himself.

• He will not falsely or maliciously injure the professional reputation, prospects, or job security of another pilot, yet if he knows of professional incompetence or conduct detrimental to the profession or to ALPA, he will not shrink from revealing this to the proper authorities within ALPA, so that the weak member may be brought up to the standards demanded, or ALPA and the profession alike may be rid of one unworthy to share its rewards.
• He will conduct his affairs with ALPA and its members in accordance with the rules laid down in the Constitution and By-Laws of ALPA and with the policies and interpretations promulgated therefrom. Whenever possible, he will attend all meetings of ALPA open to him and will take an active part in its activities and in meetings of other groups calculated to improve air safety and the standing of the profession.
• An Air Line Pilot shall refrain from any action whereby, for his personal benefit or gain, he take advantage of the confidence reposed in him by his fellow members. If he is called upon to represent ALPA in any dispute, he will do so to the best of his ability, fairly and fearlessly, relying on the influence and power of ALPA to protect him.
• He will regard himself as a debtor to his profession and ALPA, and will dedicate himself to their advancement. He will cooperate in the upholding of the profession by exchanging information and experience with his fellow pilots and by actively contributing to the work of professional groups and the technical press.​

An Air Line Pilot the honor of his profession is dear, and he will remember that his own character and conduct reflect honor or dishonor upon the profession.

• He will be a good citizen of his country, state, and community, taking an active part in their affairs, especially those dealing with the improvement of aviation facilities and the enhancement of air safety.
• He will conduct all his affairs in a manner that reflects credit on himself and his profession.
• He will remember that to his neighbors, friends, and acquaintances he represents both the profession and ALPA, and that his actions represent to them the conduct and character of all members of the profession and ALPA.
• He will realize that nothing more certainly fosters prejudices against and deprives the profession of its high public esteem and confidence than do breaches in the use of alcohol.
• He will not publish articles, give interviews, or permit his name to be used in any manner likely to bring discredit to another pilot, the airline industry, the profession, or ALPA.
• He will continue to keep abreast of aviation developments so that his skill and judgment, which heavily depend on such knowledge, may be of the highest order.​

Having Endeavored to his utmost to faithfully fulfill the obligations of the ALPA Code of Ethics and Canons for the Guidance of Air Line Pilots, a pilot may consider himself worthy to be called…an AIRLINE PILOT.

Yes Joe, I was the one who first pointed out in this thread that ALPA already hade a code of ethics and canons. And it was me who late pointed out in this thread how the Skywest pilot creed is different.

And I don't hate anything, much less some regional airline company. But like I've always admitted, I do have something against Inc and their true intent of their people while hiding behind their appearance of benevolence. There were a handful of us in the room whom they showed, with much frank calm I might add, what they really thought o their people. Not being part of a union (not even ALPA) is just a gripe a have against the Skywest pilots who voted against unionizing.

Now, why should I give it a rest if everyone else doesn't?

 

[IBNAV8R]

I'm not anti-ALPA (though I'm drifting a little closer everyday). In fact, I've voted for ALPA the last three times it came to a vote. Nonetheless, I thought NEVETS would have shut his pie-hole after we compared his much-touted, all-important, all-telling, be-all-end-all measurement of QOL - W2/block-hours. As I recall, several SkyWesters chimed in - but not NEVETS.

Let me know if I've concluded incorrectly but, if anything, the screaming of the crickets made me feel immensely better about my non-contract, dragging-the-industry-down, loser-pay, RJ-lifer situation. In fact, I thought to compare my figure with some mainline guys - and I felt even better.

So, give it rest.

 

[Nevets]

I'm not anti-ALPA (though I'm drifting a little closer everyday). In fact, I've voted for ALPA the last three times it came to a vote. Nonetheless, I thought NEVETS would have shut his pie-hole after we compared his much-touted, all-important, all-telling, be-all-end-all measurement of QOL - W2/block-hours. As I recall, several SkyWesters chimed in - but not NEVETS.

Let me know if I've concluded incorrectly but, if anything, the screaming of the crickets made me feel immensely better about my non-contract, dragging-the-industry-down, loser-pay, RJ-lifer situation. In fact, I thought to compare my figure with some mainline guys - and I felt even better.

So, give it rest.

Nope, must have missed it. I've done the calculation on multiple occasions on this site and others. I even remember having a discussion with dojetdriver about the relevance of calculating it by dividing it by TAFB or total block hours flown. I'll try to dig it up when I get some time.

Your conclusion was incorrect. So now let take the liberty to tell you what to do with your free time, you give it a rest!