Skywest Pay Vote in Effect

[imisscorplife]

Voted no! Ive been with other companies, 121 and corporate. Skywest is a great company, but its time to show management we are not happy with what they have offered!

 

[IBNAV8R]

Decline!!

 

[crj567]

Yeah-

Grow a pair. Show that you can't be pushed around forever.

 

[Flyer1015]

Right, because you have so much power as a non-union airline pilot group. You can yell all you want, but at the end of the day, the ball is in their court.

 

[Ben Dover]

...but its time to show management we are not happy with what they have offered!

How'd that work out for ya last time you voted no on a pay package?

 

[COOPERVANE]

A no vote is still better than just roll over. Mgmt. will push until they hit resistance. You need to push back a little bit.

 

[the palm]

Jerry is hoping for a NO vote. Think about that.

 

[SSDD]

No he isn't. He is hoping for a Yes vote so he can set expectations for ASA/XJT. If we vote Yes, then that's all we get, and we've set the limit for ASA.

 

[rtmcfi]

How'd that work out for ya last time you voted no on a pay package?

Bout the same. Did you expect to notice 1%?

 

[Ben Dover]

Just curious, is SAPA recommending a show of unity? Or are they saying "here's the package, vote how you want?"

 

[BHopper88]

More or less here is the package. To be honest there isn't really that much unity. It's more like rj capts, rj fo, and then the "people under the stairs" (bro pilots, especially bro fos).

 

[Bako Cap]

"here's the package, vote how you want" but with a "we're probably not going to get anything else" overtone.

Flyer1015, we have more power than what you think. Unless you have worked here, you probably will not understand. Ultimately, without true representation, you're right that the ball is in their court, but only because many here also don't understand what kind of power we have. I have been part of it a couple of times in the past and it works nicely if done collectively. Boy, that is a lot of if's, 2800 if's. We will see how this vote and the next union vote goes to determine if the SkyWest pilot group is actually in this together.

 

[jayme]

One example of it "working nicely"? You can't possibly be talking about 8 hours vs. 12 bottle-to-throttle, are you?

 

[CRJ Driver]

I'm sure mgt is getting a good laugh at your "No" vote.

How many times did you turn down ALPA?

 

[COOPERVANE]

If Skywest votes "no" and gets the rates imposed on them anyway, Alpa might pass next time.

That is the leverage Jerry should worry about. I think he has motivation to deal.

 

[BHopper88]

Jerry could careless if we were alpa. In fact the almost 2 million they spend on sapa would go right to profits since the pilots would pay for alpa. Plus Inc knows how to play with alpa. It's really in the pilots hands and those that think SkyWest is a "family" and Jerry will take care of SkyWest first over asa/xjt.

 

[Plainsman]

You guys are really thought of as self serving. That is not a good quality unless you are just getting out of diapers.

 

[wms]

No he isn't. He is hoping for a Yes vote so he can set expectations for ASA/XJT. If we vote Yes, then that's all we get, and we've set the limit for ASA.

SAPA doesn't set our limits, our negotiators do. Vote however you want, JA will set your rates.

 

[wms]

Jerry could careless if we were alpa. In fact the almost 2 million they spend on sapa would go right to profits since the pilots would pay for alpa. Plus Inc knows how to play with alpa. It's really in the pilots hands and those that think SkyWest is a "family" and Jerry will take care of SkyWest first over asa/xjt.

Inc had not "played" with ALPA until they bought ASA. ALPA works here because ASA and ALPA work well together...for the most part. Just look at the non-union employee groups at the SKYW,Inc companies. They all make bottom tier pay, especially considering the high quality work they do. If there was not a union at ASA we would be at the bottom also, and SKYW pilots would have no one to coat-tail.

 

[skywav8r]

Vote NO!!!!! 1% is a joke. Wasn't that all you got last time too? Oh, wait.....it was 1 1/2%!!!!!