SkyWest paints optimistic picture for regionals

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Oh all yee of the many tribes whom dwell in the land of small brains!!!

Submit thine ears to a moment of wisdom, thought even I know it will pain you to do so, for it is a painful truth that ALPA and the two edged sword of airline unions in general which has done great good in our beloved industry, whilst at the same time,done great harm.

But the scales of time have shown the good to be greater than the bad, and best not too many of our ilk be tempted to ride the rising tide without themselves having the wisdom and courage to stroke oars in the water and bleed sweat upon that labor.

For on that day when too many choose to enjoy the fruits of labor's past, it will come to be that the tide shall sale out at great haste and all boats shall slam to the muddy bottom. Oars will no longer suffice from that day, for then only shovels will be of any use as we work to dig ourselves out of the hole of laziness and ignorance of history.

Only a fool walks a path not heeding the signs painfully laid down by pioneers with courage needed to swing machete through the jungle.

Flawed, fat and bloated the progeny of pioneers may be, those who came before them best be heeded and the path maintained rather than abandoned.

So say the BUSCAP.

Amen
 
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Skywest knows they are f"ed with those 378 50 seaters. Their strategy of bribing mainline airlines by buying up flying and working under a loss may be beneficial to them in the long run. One thing's for sure they could proabaly fly with heavy losses for 20 years without going bankrupt. All the years of non union bottom feeding has done them good in the bank.

Actually SKW has more than enough cash and credit ratings to replace ALL of their 50-seaters with 700s, 900s, E-Jets, C-series whatever.

They haven't done so because mainline has not required it yet (which they may well do as contracts expire in the next decades).

Same with XJT...if those all those 50-seaters were so bad for CAL, CAL would make a deal with XJT to replace them.
 

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SkyWest had been doing well for themselves. The C Series wood be the next logical step. 50 seaters had their shining moment. They aren't needed in such mass quantities anymore.
 

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You really are ignorant.

No, you are ignorant. We all know 50 seaters will be toast sooner than later. I am really hoping some legacies start to hire soon, so I can get off my own 50 seater. Brad Rich does sound like the Iraqi Information Minister, full of BS. Isn't he looking to put some CR7s in Vietnam? I think he is. He is ready to destroy Asia's airline industry next. LOL!
 

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SkyWest had been doing well for themselves. The C Series wood be the next logical step. 50 seaters had their shining moment. They aren't needed in such mass quantities anymore.

You mean a la Indy Air? No legacy union will allow more than 76 seats to be flown by Skywest, and if they try to start their own flying, they will be crushed, just like Indy Air. Keep dreaming. Brad Rich knows Skywest and ASA will be hurting soon thanks to all of those 50 seaters that they can't get rid of. They now have to pay to play with the big boys, like the Airtran agreement. That operation might not be able to pay for the operational costs alone.
 

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You mean a la Indy Air? No legacy union will allow more than 76 seats to be flown by Skywest, and if they try to start their own flying, they will be crushed, just like Indy Air. Keep dreaming. Brad Rich knows Skywest and ASA will be hurting soon thanks to all of those 50 seaters that they can't get rid of. They now have to pay to play with the big boys, like the Airtran agreement. That operation might not be able to pay for the operational costs alone.

Don't forget the xjet experiment too. Even with all the scope rules, something has to give since 50 seaters are history (for the most part). What can be predicted for all these regional carriers since larger planes are "where its at"? In other words, what are their options?
 

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What can be predicted for all these regional carriers since larger planes are "where its at"? In other words, what are their options?

How many seats to those 170/190 have? How many are they capable of holding?
It's a matter of time before another spin off carrier happens, this time with those 170/190s fitted to their full seating capacity, maybe even 737's.
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Soon DAL, UAL and CAL are just going to be a brand name travel agency, selling tickets and outsourcing all of their work. They might employee telephone agents to take calls, but that's it.
 

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Mainline Delta goes all International, DCI goes all domestic. LOL

About Vietnam. Physically flying? Nope. Investing? Nah, not now. There's 2 operating state-owned and only 3 approved privately-owned airlines that are currently not operating. Indochina which just suspended ops once again, Vietnam Airline's subsidary VASCO's VietJetAir and Mekong Air. VietJetAir (originally-'Air Speed Up'-in Vietnamese without accents, means death and grief) will be a low cost carrier, has a website but with no recent news since December when their 2 year deadline to be completely certified and ready to fly expired. Then there's Mekong Air which doesn't have a website and no recent news except a past blurb about a probable startup in 2010 with 10 Bombardier aircraft. I don't think anything will happen with SkyWest in Vietnam, not for now. Especially how long those drawn out contract negotiations took place with SkyWest and TRIP Linhas Aereas in an economy that's proving itself worthy. Neeleman's new baby AZUL can attest to that last year.
 

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I absolutely love how everybody tries to tear into and bring SkyW down.
"desperation is a stinky disease" guys.
 

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Rez O. Lewshun

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I am sure if OO starts taking loses with the outdated 50 seaters.... pay rates will remain solid.
 

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You pukes....HA, the arrogance YOU WILL NOT, let me repeat, NOT be flying anything over 70/76 seats. Pathetic pay and also subpar experience... Do you guys want to be stuck at #$hi@wages for the rest of your life...and for all you non-union pukes.....F U!
 

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Bwwwaaaahahahahahahah!!!!!

ALPA's calling card. I love it.

Join ALPA, or else! Great plan.

BTW, how'd that plan work out at SKYW?

I don't get the point. The chief lost his job and the pilot got his back + 100K for back pay all wout 2000$ a year for lawyer insurance...i mean alpa.
 

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Bwwwaaaahahahahahahah!!!!!

ALPA's calling card. I love it.

Join ALPA, or else! Great plan.

BTW, how'd that plan work out at SKYW?


I didn't say anything about ALPA. Some ASA guy was on here saying Skywest treats it's employees well. I think that the pay is pathetic (regardless of other regionals...they all suck). I'm sure the first officers are happy to hear they get treated well though...it looks like they could be in the right seat for some time!
 

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You pukes....HA, the arrogance YOU WILL NOT, let me repeat, NOT be flying anything over 70/76 seats. Pathetic pay and also subpar experience... Do you guys want to be stuck at #$hi@wages for the rest of your life...and for all you non-union pukes.....F U!

Can you clarify? It's hard to read the language that 13yrs old use on their text messages.
If I read you correctly, then all I have to say is...
You mainline guys preached that regionals would never fly anything more than 50 seats......SHAZAM! Now they're flying 76 seats.
As far as the pathetic wages....it all trickles down. Regional guys would be able to argue more pay if the mainline guys didn't buckle at the knees and give away the whole farm, plus the farmers daughter.
A good day to you Sir.
 

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I don't get the point. The chief lost his job and the pilot got his back + 100K for back pay all wout 2000$ a year for lawyer insurance...i mean alpa.

Ask DD how much money he had to put up to get all that back. I'm guessing most on here don't have enough. While you are at it, ask him for his opinion on the Union subject.

P.S. The ex chief is still at OO.
 

Jon Rivoli

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I googled your "sourcewatch.org, guess what I found? They are the offspring of a group called "the Center for Media and Democracy" whose stated goal is "to assist liberal and leftist grassroots citizen activism..." and "focusing largely on what it views as the transgressions of political conservatives."

So, I assume that you know that your getting your info from a communist front group. Of course you knew that.
 

Rez O. Lewshun

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I googled your "sourcewatch.org, guess what I found? They are the offspring of a group called "the Center for Media and Democracy" whose stated goal is "to assist liberal and leftist grassroots citizen activism..." and "focusing largely on what it views as the transgressions of political conservatives."

So, I assume that you know that your getting your info from a communist front group. Of course you knew that.


How do you know that the google findings weren't from fascist groups?


Just askin'
 
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