SkyWest losing gates to Delta in SLC

[Willy21]

However, they can be misapplied, just as a 757 can be. It wouldn't make sense to run a 757 into Little Rock--even once a day.

Kind of like when they put 757's on ATL to SAV and used the 727 on ATL to PDX with a fuel stop?

 

[CFI2766]

[ Why have 6 RJs flights a day competing with Airtran 717s, when you can pull in some already paid for DC9s and give pax something they all want, a little SPACE? Three Dc9s a day vs 6 money losing RJs. Your RJs clog the airways, the ramps, and don't bring in enough revenue---

Well, no. It's been proven repeatedly that passengers specific dates of travel, price, and departure times, in that order. It's naive to think otherwise. This is true regardless of what kind of airplane, and what paint scheme, is chosen for a given route.

However, I don't think that there is any guarantee that RJs flown by mainline pilots would be any more expensive, at least in the short run.

Negotiate a cut rate for the lil' jets to make management happy, thereby creating an inhouse buffer for the widebody (in aircraft and physique) senior guys to ward off furlough, and voila' everyone is happy. Except, of course, the guys who were once employed by the regional 'partners.'

 

[Speedtape]

The real answer is to open up all domestic flying to foreign carriers. That would silence the General.

 

[79%N1]

Crap! When did the General find his way back to the regional board??? He really must bhe bored, after working, homelife, and perusing the majors board, he still has time to come over here and zing us barbie jet driving, ramp congesting, airspace clogging Regional guys!

Said it before.....Douchb@g!

 

[Dubya]

Yeah McFry, that sure would be bad for all of us, being PAID more. Management can see that RJs are a cancer, and mainline jets are the way to go. Why have 6 RJs flights a day competing with Airtran 717s, when you can pull in some already paid for DC9s and give pax something they all want, a little SPACE? Three Dc9s a day vs 6 money losing RJs. Your RJs clog the airways, the ramps, and don't bring in enough revenue---actually costing Delta more money in bad times because of the ridiculous contracts that were signed. They need to go bye bye, and if you don't perform---you go away too. The good thing is we have a lot of you guys to choose from.

Speaking of which, you need to go back to your third job at McRonalds and keep working on finding the "perfect french fry."


Bye Bye--General Lee

Perhaps you and the rest of your gray top, double-breasted Wunderkins can jump in your WayBack machine and un-screw us all. Then we can fly all these 75-100 seat jets at the bottom of a major scale. That would be great. MmmmmmK? Thanks.


W

 

[General Lee]

Well, no. It's been proven repeatedly that passengers specific dates of travel, price, and departure times, in that order. It's naive to think otherwise. This is true regardless of what kind of airplane, and what paint scheme, is chosen for a given route.

However, I don't think that there is any guarantee that RJs flown by mainline pilots would be any more expensive, at least in the short run.

Negotiate a cut rate for the lil' jets to make management happy, thereby creating an inhouse buffer for the widebody (in aircraft and physique) senior guys to ward off furlough, and voila' everyone is happy. Except, of course, the guys who were once employed by the regional 'partners.'

OH BS. WRONG. Every Business traveler out there (who actually pays the bills at any airline) growns everytime he/she sees an RJ. Now I guess an RJ is better than a prop, but that's about it. And we have an inhouse lil' jet operation, called Compass. It provides adequate protection, along with an airplane that should have only been mainline (Like at Air Canada).


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Perhaps you and the rest of your gray top, double-breasted Wunderkins can jump in your WayBack machine and un-screw us all. Then we can fly all these 75-100 seat jets at the bottom of a major scale. That would be great. MmmmmmK? Thanks.


W

Un-screw you all? Like after 9-11 when Comair wouldn't help our pilots without extra 70 seaters going their way? Riiiight. Some of you RJ operators were nice, and a lot were not. In the meantime, RJs have gotten way too expensive in bad times, and a lot need to go away as capacity shrinks. Sound like a plan? MmmmmmmK?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

The real answer is to open up all domestic flying to foreign carriers. That would silence the General.

Yeah, right, that's gonna happen. Look at Virgin America and how much scrutiny they are getting as they lost their two main US investors. Alaska Airlines is going after them like a hawk, and the DoT will have an investigation to see if Branson owns more than the allotted amount allowed by law. Not lookin good. And, McCain was in favor of what you were talking about, but Obama is NOT. Maybe you can wait 4 more years to see if that will happen....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Crap! When did the General find his way back to the regional board??? He really must bhe bored, after working, homelife, and perusing the majors board, he still has time to come over here and zing us barbie jet driving, ramp congesting, airspace clogging Regional guys!

Said it before.....Douchb@g!

When was SkyWest the most profitable? When we were tanking. That is because of contracts written when we were struggling in BK. Guess what? That has to change now. Time to pay the piper.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[crj567]

When was SkyWest the most profitable? When we were tanking. That is because of contracts written when we were struggling in BK. Guess what? That has to change now. Time to pay the piper.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Yep-
Capt. PeePants is at it again.... PeePants is just pissed because the dog chewed up his "Buzz" Lightyear" action figure again....

-Go and get some more SunnyD, Gen-we all know you come up with your best witty reparte when you are on a sugar high...

-Just so we know, Capt. PeePants, do we press the red or blue button to call your mommy to come and pick you up?

 

[General Lee]

Yep-
Capt. PeePants is at it again.... PeePants is just pissed because the dog chewed up his "Buzz" Lightyear" action figure again....

-Go and get some more SunnyD, Gen-we all know you come up with your best witty reparte when you are on a sugar high...

-Just so we know, Capt. PeePants, do we press the red or blue button to call your mommy to come and pick you up?

Wow McFry, great response. I knew you couldn't do it.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Speedtape]

Yeah, right, that's gonna happen. Look at Virgin America and how much scrutiny they are getting as they lost their two main US investors. Alaska Airlines is going after them like a hawk, and the DoT will have an investigation to see if Branson owns more than the allotted amount allowed by law. Not lookin good. And, McCain was in favor of what you were talking about, but Obama is NOT. Maybe you can wait 4 more years to see if that will happen....

Bye Bye--General Lee

Virgin and Branson--He may have found the loophole, and if he has, all the King's horses and all the King's men want be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again--starting with Alaska!

McCain--McCain is still around and will remain a threat on this issue as he is a powerful Senator. He may not be able to bring it to fruition, but he want stop trying!

Obama--No one really knows what Obama is "For" or "Against!" in the post election. He has already rolled over on some of his promises, giving us more of the same! He is not predictable at this point--good or bad. He does have Economists that embrace French Socialism Concepts in his army. Obama's policies and reign could be alot more threatening to your way of life, even if Cabotage, in it's purest form, is not adapted. This Country and our industry will look quite different in 4 years after the "Great Social Experiment" has been implemented!

Wait 4 more years?--Sorry, but policies will be changing throughout this term that will set the table for what you don't want! It's coming, and under this administration!

Ba, bye!

 

[Plainsman]

When was SkyWest the most profitable? When we were tanking. That is because of contracts written when we were struggling in BK. Guess what? That has to change now. Time to pay the piper.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Delta was asking to sell ASA, skywest set it up so when Delta came out of BK they wouldn't get porked. That's what happens when people are against the wall. It was fair. Delta was in BK on their own account, crummy leadership (mullins). Now you are going to get it again with that crew you got in there, maybe not BK but some kind of screwover. I am glad I aint in your boat. Do you think you aren't going to get screwed over by Delta in the next decade. If not ask anyone who has come before you in the last 30 years. It aint the rjs idiot.

 

[General Lee]

Delta was asking to sell ASA, skywest set it up so when Delta came out of BK they wouldn't get porked. That's what happens when people are against the wall. It was fair. Delta was in BK on their own account, crummy leadership (mullins). Now you are going to get it again with that crew you got in there, maybe not BK but some kind of screwover. I am glad I aint in your boat. Do you think you aren't going to get screwed over by Delta in the next decade. If not ask anyone who has come before you in the last 30 years. It aint the rjs idiot.

It aint the RJs? Why is Delta making ASA park 20 50 seaters? Yes, they are getting some 76 seaters in the deal, but they are parking more than they are receiving. And, SkyWest took advantage of the situation when we were in trouble, which is great until your next contract comes up. The Comair strike really made DL mad back in 2000, and look how Delta is treating Comair now. You are glad you are not in "my boat?" You wish you were you idiot. Will I get screwed at Delta in the next 10 years? I doubt it. Will there be ups and downs? Sure. Would I rather be at my position than any position at a Delta Connection RJ airline? YOU BET. Have fun out there Mr. Gold Seal, and enjoy watching the whipsaw continue.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Virgin and Branson--He may have found the loophole, and if he has, all the King's horses and all the King's men want be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again--starting with Alaska!
Are you kidding me? They will find a loophole to someone owning more than the legal amount? Can they find anyone that can get financing in this market today to take over the other 75%? Not looking good, and Virgin Atlantic just announced the next step for them was intra Europe. Where would they get the planes? Hmmmmm. I got an idea....
McCain--McCain is still around and will remain a threat on this issue as he is a powerful Senator. He may not be able to bring it to fruition, but he want stop trying! McCain is still around? Really? He has more things to worry about that cabbotage. He is trying to nominate Rush Limbaugh as the next RNC President. Have fun with that. Looks like Obama has 8 more years to go now.

Obama--No one really knows what Obama is "For" or "Against!" in the post election. He has already rolled over on some of his promises, giving us more of the same! He is not predictable at this point--good or bad. He does have Economists that embrace French Socialism Concepts in his army. Obama's policies and reign could be alot more threatening to your way of life, even if Cabotage, in it's purest form, is not adapted. This Country and our industry will look quite different in 4 years after the "Great Social Experiment" has been implemented! Obama is a lot better friend than the last guy to our industry, and he will listen to the unions, which are against it. Sorry, we have a lot better chance avoiding that mess now. You can't argue that point.

Wait 4 more years?--Sorry, but policies will be changing throughout this term that will set the table for what you don't want! It's coming, and under this administration! Yeah, uh huh, riiiiight. Thanks Sean Hanity. Give Bill O'Reily a kiss for us you whacko. Sore losers! We won fair and square and this was a mandate from THE PEOPLE. Again, sore losers!

Ba, bye!

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

DAL owns the gates, we just let SKW operate out of them.

 

[Speedtape]

DAL owns the gates, we just let SKW operate out of them.

And how are things in Houston?

 

[Speedtape]

Bye Bye--General Lee

Originally Posted by Speedtape
Virgin and Branson--He may have found the loophole, and if he has, all the King's horses and all the King's men want be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again--starting with Alaska!
Are you kidding me? They will find a loophole to someone owning more than the legal amount? Can they find anyone that can get financing in this market today to take over the other 75%? Not looking good, and Virgin Atlantic just announced the next step for them was intra Europe. Where would they get the planes? Hmmmmm. I got an idea....
There MAY be a loophole to the foreign ownership AFTER the company has been established. I don't know the law, do YOU? He has a plan or he would not have set it up as he did with the buyback feature to guarantee the original investment. As far as airplane availabilty, there are probably plenty of airbusses available at any time.
McCain--McCain is still around and will remain a threat on this issue as he is a powerful Senator. He may not be able to bring it to fruition, but he want stop trying! McCain is still around? Really? He has more things to worry about that cabbotage. He is trying to nominate Rush Limbaugh as the next RNC President. Have fun with that. Looks like Obama has 8 more years to go now.
My bet is 3 years and 10 months. However, plenty of damage can occurr in the meantime. You are not safe under this administration as once you reach your "LEFTist" seat, your increase in pay will not cover all the taxes that you will be paying for with all the porkulous bills that are coming forth. You are about to get a good dose of European Socialism and their very high taxes. But your view from 37,000 feet will be the same as from an RJ.

Obama--No one really knows what Obama is "For" or "Against!" in the post election. He has already rolled over on some of his promises, giving us more of the same! He is not predictable at this point--good or bad. He does have Economists that embrace French Socialism Concepts in his army. Obama's policies and reign could be alot more threatening to your way of life, even if Cabotage, in it's purest form, is not adapted. This Country and our industry will look quite different in 4 years after the "Great Social Experiment" has been implemented! Obama is a lot better friend than the last guy to our industry, and he will listen to the unions, which are against it. Sorry, we have a lot better chance avoiding that mess now. You can't argue that point. I will agree that the last administration brought great harm to our careers. However, the jury is still out on your man! The real harm now is because of all the bad loans made in the past few years, thanks to the legislative leadership of YOUR Barney Frank and Reid--YOUR Democrats and their majority buddies. I think our economy will be harmed to the point that you may be back in an RJ because no one will be able to afford to fly with all the taxes they will be paying. In addition, the European ecocomy will not recover until the US economy improves--maybe never! What will happen to all those non-profitable flights to Europe? Sounds like they are going to axe some of them later this fall? Can you shrink into profitability?

Wait 4 more years?--Sorry, but policies will be changing throughout this term that will set the table for what you don't want! It's coming, and under this administration! Yeah, uh huh, riiiiight. Thanks Sean Hanity. Give Bill O'Reily a kiss for us you whacko. Sore losers! We won fair and square and this was a mandate from THE PEOPLE. Again, sore losers!
General, in this industry, We will all be losers because of your "percieved" winning! You just don't have it figured out yet! But if F.I. survives the next 4 years, I will be the first to let you know! I will gladly bestow the winning hat on you--the dunce hat, pointy fella! By the way, "winning" is a relative term--not absolute. You won with Jimmy Carter also--didn't he bring deregulation.




Ba, bye--Pointy Fella!

 

[General Lee]

Originally Posted by Speedtape
Virgin and Branson--He may have found the loophole, and if he has, all the King's horses and all the King's men want be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again--starting with Alaska!
Are you kidding me? They will find a loophole to someone owning more than the legal amount? Can they find anyone that can get financing in this market today to take over the other 75%? Not looking good, and Virgin Atlantic just announced the next step for them was intra Europe. Where would they get the planes? Hmmmmm. I got an idea....
There MAY be a loophole to the foreign ownership AFTER the company has been established. I don't know the law, do YOU? He has a plan or he would not have set it up as he did with the buyback feature to guarantee the original investment. As far as airplane availabilty, there are probably plenty of airbusses available at any time.
So, all of the Alaska attornies are WRONG. Yeah, those guys up in SEA don't know how to read the laws...... And, you don't think Branson was EXPECTING to lose any investors when he started VA, did you? He probably didn't see the credit crunch, or any other financial calamities coming our way.....RIIIIIIGHT.



McCain--McCain is still around and will remain a threat on this issue as he is a powerful Senator. He may not be able to bring it to fruition, but he want stop trying! McCain is still around? Really? He has more things to worry about that cabbotage. He is trying to nominate Rush Limbaugh as the next RNC President. Have fun with that. Looks like Obama has 8 more years to go now.
My bet is 3 years and 10 months. However, plenty of damage can occurr in the meantime. You are not safe under this administration as once you reach your "LEFTist" seat, your increase in pay will not cover all the taxes that you will be paying for with all the porkulous bills that are coming forth. You are about to get a good dose of European Socialism and their very high taxes. But your view from 37,000 feet will be the same as from an RJ.
Your bet, your bet----who cares? Your bets don't follow the FACTS. Obama is pro-union, and listens to them. McCain was pro-consumer---which favored cabbotage. You lose.

Obama--No one really knows what Obama is "For" or "Against!" in the post election. He has already rolled over on some of his promises, giving us more of the same! He is not predictable at this point--good or bad. He does have Economists that embrace French Socialism Concepts in his army. Obama's policies and reign could be alot more threatening to your way of life, even if Cabotage, in it's purest form, is not adapted. This Country and our industry will look quite different in 4 years after the "Great Social Experiment" has been implemented! Obama is a lot better friend than the last guy to our industry, and he will listen to the unions, which are against it. Sorry, we have a lot better chance avoiding that mess now. You can't argue that point. I will agree that the last administration brought great harm to our careers. However, the jury is still out on your man! The real harm now is because of all the bad loans made in the past few years, thanks to the legislative leadership of YOUR Barney Frank and Reid--YOUR Democrats and their majority buddies. I think our economy will be harmed to the point that you may be back in an RJ because no one will be able to afford to fly with all the taxes they will be paying. In addition, the European ecocomy will not recover until the US economy improves--maybe never! What will happen to all those non-profitable flights to Europe? Sounds like they are going to axe some of them later this fall? Can you shrink into profitability?
The jury is still out.....it's been what, 50 days? And, Obama is on his way to fixing what BUSH LEFT HIM. The World has lost $50 Trillion is liquidity since late last year. Was that ALL OBAMA'S FAULT? Nope. The Stock Market has gone down since Obama has been in office, but it also did a bit better last week when actual facts came out on what may be happening with the Stimulus. And, we ALWAYS cut European flights in the FALL. Not as many travel there. So, we will trim capacity like WE ALWAYS DO. We also shift Europe flights to South America, and do better during their own Summer (our Winter). You flying for a regional obviously didn't know that. Our route planning guys PLAN for those things to happen, and shift stuff around EVERY YEAR.

Wait 4 more years?--Sorry, but policies will be changing throughout this term that will set the table for what you don't want! It's coming, and under this administration! Yeah, uh huh, riiiiight. Thanks Sean Hanity. Give Bill O'Reily a kiss for us you whacko. Sore losers! We won fair and square and this was a mandate from THE PEOPLE. Again, sore losers!
General, in this industry, We will all be losers because of your "percieved" winning! You just don't have it figured out yet! But if F.I. survives the next 4 years, I will be the first to let you know! I will gladly bestow the winning hat on you--the dunce hat, pointy fella! By the way, "winning" is a relative term--not absolute. You won with Jimmy Carter also--didn't he bring deregulation.
We are already winners for getting rid of Bush and his lame team. But, he did leave our new guy a BIG problem, and you and Limbaugh and Sean Hanity can blame him all you want, but he is still working on the problem he was given. It may take awhile to see results, and if that is not good enough for you guys, then too bad. Also, next time bring up Bill Clinton instead of Carter. He gave us a $3 trillion SURPLUS, and the economy was great, even with higher taxes.



Ba, bye--Pointy Fella!

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[crj567]

DAL owns the gates, we just let SKW operate out of them.

I would like to espress my personal gratitude to you for graciously allowing all the little people to operate from your gates.... It is good to be the king.

-Are you sure you aren't a student of Gen PeePants?
-Getting a little uppity again-are we?