Skywest in Aspen

[WalterSobchak]

Disregard...I just found out I'm supposed to be roasting marshmallows.

 

[CA1900]

"Go around is NOT an option."

That's the exact accident that came to my mind, too.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

....I'll continue to use common sense...

You couldn't find common sense in a paper bag!

The feds and common sense don't go together....

Kind of like you and "professional pilot."

If they want to violate me for using common sense then so be it....

Make sure and call the rjdc for that violation, they're looking out for your best interest!

No flight is ever in 100% compliance of every rule.....

Speak for yourself moron! And you wonder why your pathetic lawsuit was a failure.

I can't even keep track of all the changes that are made by beuracratic pin heads who have nothing better to do....

No, you're too busy suiing people for things you can't achieve on your own.

True safety has taken a backseat to "recipe flying" or "cookbook flying"....

More snipets from the rjdc playbook?

 

[eglguy]

While I understand that Aspen apparently sucks to fly into, technically speaking how do you knowingly exceed a clear limitation and be in the right?

I seriously doubt a fed, or NTSB investigator would see it your 'logical' way.

Fed in training

 

[WalterSobchak]

You couldn't find common sense in a paper bag!


Kind of like you and "professional pilot."


Make sure and call the rjdc for that violation, they're looking out for your best interest!


Speak for yourself moron! And you wonder why your pathetic lawsuit was a failure.


No, you're too busy suiing people for things you can't achieve on your own.


More snipets from the rjdc playbook?

Hey, keep it down, sucker. You're ruining my S'mores over here...

 

[Leroy Smith]

That's the exact accident that came to my mind, too.

A little less cumulo-granite in western VA.
But I wonder what your groundspeed across the #s would be at that altitude with 17kts of tailwind?

7,000ft gets chewed up pretty quick........

I wasn't there, so I wont second guess- no bent metal, no blood- the outcome was good...... But MY pucker-factor would have been so high, the seat cushion would have disappeared!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

PBR,

ASE flying in Den isn't junior anymore....stupid? well, opinions vary. Interesting post, nail somebody for what they said then turn around and say something stupid yourself. I'll let you respond because I can obviously learn a lot from you.

Well,
Ground rodent, when I was based in DEN, ASE was initiated, and the only people flying it were a few LCA and the rest were junior guys who couldn't hold a "regular" line and the reserve guys couldn't hold anything except themselves. Any pilot who has been flying for a short while and has the ability to read an approach plate and TOPO map, realized that the ASE flying was and is a less than optimal way to make a living. I have flown hot and high density altitudes for too many years. Any approach that precludes a go around in normal circumstances and requires extraordinary navigation and procedural compliance to be possibly "safe" is not something an experienced aviator wants to put on his/her plate regularly. Can it be done, sure, but you are giving away margins, and experienced aviators don't give them away without good reason, and cash aint one of them. You will notice I removed stupid from my post, inexperienced does not equal stupid.
PBR

 

[Freeze_gopher]

Let's end this before it gets totally out of hand...may be too late. I've been doing this flying for over a year, and I've never landed with a 16kt tailwind. I have on numerous occasions gone around (including the emergency extraction procedure) because of visibility, wind direction etc. There is no "go around isn't an option" attitude associated with this flying. It's just flying. I'm not willing to bend a kite in LAX and its' exactly the same in ASE.

 

[XPOO]

Hey, keep it down, sucker. You're ruining my S'mores over here...

NOM NOM NOM NOM

 

[flyjumpseat]

I think we're going to need more marshmellows the way this post is going. Did anyone bring popcorn?

 

[WalterSobchak]

I've got some oatmeal in my locker...is popcorn still 65 cents in the vending machine?

Where's 10nCLR? I wonder what he's bringing to our impromptu pot luck?

 

[Russ]

The winds change direction and velocity often. The winds issued to you might have been the polar opposite of what the 700 crew received. To echo gopher, I've been doing ASE for 16 months now and have never landed with anything above 10 kts of tailwind.
ASE crews are spring loaded to not land in ASE. If anything is amiss, it's hold over DBL until fuel dictates heading to DEN or GJT. The level of alertness is significantly higher than landing on a 10K runway with an ILS in Kansas.

 

[10nCLR]

I got the Kool-Aid and the 100proof. Now give me a marshmallow Walter and it better be a semi-burnt one!!!!!!

 

[XPOO]

Gotta have some popcorn, especially if you are expecting your LAX/ASE aircraft to hold for 45 mins before diverting to GJT.

 

[XPOO]

I worked with the Captain of this ill-fated flight at a previous airline. He was a great guy, and great pilot. All it takes is one tiny slip-up in ASE. I say better to be in GJT than just short of ASE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avjet_Aspen_Crash

Now, back to the s'mores.

 

[10nCLR]

XPOO, got any Milk Duds or Swedish Fish?

 

[XPOO]

Will Junior Mints work?

 

[WalterSobchak]

XPOO, got any Milk Duds or Swedish Fish?

10nCLR...did you bring any Urnge Kool-Aid?

 

[RJLoser]

When I picture a SKYW CA & FO on a overnight in ASE I think of the scene when they get out of the red Lamborghini with the furry boots on.

 

[XPOO]

When I picture a SKYW CA & FO on a overnight in ASE I think of the scene when they get out of the red Lamborghini with the furry boots on.

LOL!!!