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[Oakum_Boy]

Day late, 100 mil short. 2017 is far far away.

 

[General Lee]

The cat's meow? No, bought and paid for? Yes. You can't ramp up a program for an airplane you don't have work for and you can't get work for an airplane you don't have.

Then there is the MRJ?

Jon,

Do you know anything about the MRJ? Ever seen one? Is it close to flying? I did hear from an FAA MX guy who jumped from Nagoya that the program was "interesting." Good luck Jon.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Jon,

Do you know anything about the MRJ? Ever seen one? Is it close to flying? I did hear from an FAA MX guy who jumped from Nagoya that the program was "interesting." Good luck Jon.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I heard from a cousins neighbors barber that it wasn't very interesting at all

 

[Gr82Aviate]

I heard from a cousins neighbors barber that it wasn't very interesting at all

I heard the "FAA MX guy" was "very impressed" that the Gerbil, I mean the General was just about to hit 17000 posts!!!:laugh:

 

[Jon Rivoli]

Jon,

Do you know anything about the MRJ? Ever seen one? Is it close to flying? I did hear from an FAA MX guy who jumped from Nagoya that the program was "interesting." Good luck Jon.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Jenny, I recently heard that Delta is beginning to realize that the 717 isn't very economic, like you can't make money flying them with your cost structure, even when full, with bag fees. You're locked into leases on them for how many years?

I was also reading up on comparative fuel burns, your MD's burn about 20% more fuel per seat mile than a 737NG. Almost as bad as a fifty seat RJ (note quite). How many of those dinosaurs do you have?

Delta has the oldest fleet in the country and the least fuel efficient fleet, and you keep buying more OLD airplanes. The top airlines around the world won't own any piece of equipment that is more than ten years old. Delta doesn't seem to want to buy anything less than twenty. Hmmmm?

Yes, they are cheap to buy, but aging aircraft maintenance gets expensive and you don't get much in the way of a depreciation allowance. In bean counter terms, that means you can either have new airplanes and right off the expense or pay in taxes, maintenance and fuel. Plus you are stuck flying stinky old busted planes.

How's that refinery working out? Starting to realize why it was for sale in the first place?

I'm thinking that in your next bankruptcy those three things; the 717, the ancient airplanes and the refinery will have everyone asking what the he11 were you thinking? Maybe Doug Parker will buy you out of bankruptcy! At least they can't staple you, but those AA guys are pretty senior. Bye Bye upgrade, hello career FO Lee.

I will be flying my shiny new MRJ up and down the west coast at M.74, enjoying that new airplane smell and trying to remember what it was like to de-ice or when was the last time I saw my suitcase. With the new rest rules starting this summer (9 hr block per day if you show after 7 AM) I'll do two turns to SOCAL per day, three days per week. Twenty days off per month. What will I do with all of my time

Bye Bye!!!

 

[CFIT]

Ya, nothing says efficiency like a 50 year old plane with 30 year old engines and $400 hour pilots just to haul 24 more seats!

 

[Rough67]

You two are really smart! I mean really ... It's like they are running the company into the ground. I wish you could set them straight :/

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Jenny, I recently heard that Delta is beginning to realize that the 717 isn't very economic, like you can't make money flying them with your cost structure, even when full, with bag fees. You're locked into leases on them for how many years?

I was also reading up on comparative fuel burns, your MD's burn about 20% more fuel per seat mile than a 737NG. Almost as bad as a fifty seat RJ (note quite). How many of those dinosaurs do you have?

Delta has the oldest fleet in the country and the least fuel efficient fleet, and you keep buying more OLD airplanes. The top airlines around the world won't own any piece of equipment that is more than ten years old. Delta doesn't seem to want to buy anything less than twenty. Hmmmm?

Yes, they are cheap to buy, but aging aircraft maintenance gets expensive and you don't get much in the way of a depreciation allowance. In bean counter terms, that means you can either have new airplanes and right off the expense or pay in taxes, maintenance and fuel. Plus you are stuck flying stinky old busted planes.

How's that refinery working out? Starting to realize why it was for sale in the first place?

I'm thinking that in your next bankruptcy those three things; the 717, the ancient airplanes and the refinery will have everyone asking what the he11 were you thinking? Maybe Doug Parker will buy you out of bankruptcy! At least they can't staple you, but those AA guys are pretty senior. Bye Bye upgrade, hello career FO Lee.

I will be flying my shiny new MRJ up and down the west coast at M.74, enjoying that new airplane smell and trying to remember what it was like to de-ice or when was the last time I saw my suitcase. With the new rest rules starting this summer (9 hr block per day if you show after 7 AM) I'll do two turns to SOCAL per day, three days per week. Twenty days off per month. What will I do with all of my time

Bye Bye!!!

But, but, General gets to overnight in fabulous places like Paris!

 

[Speedtape]

Precisely. Inc. still thinks the CRJ-200 is the cat's meow and to my knowledge has never attempted to explore other options.

I said it before, Bedford has a program for every type under the sun, and he gets the work.

He bids it below cost. How long can that last? He does not fly the CR7/9 which flys faster and burns less fuel.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

I used to think that the economics of airlines didn't make sense, then I studied Economics. Now I know they don't make sense. Since day one, airlines have not, on average, even broken even. Leverage to the hilt, bankruptcy, consolidation and merger, new entrant, leverage, refinance, more leverage, bankruptcy, liquidation, consolidation, new entrant, leverage. And the song goes on. Usually, there is at least a few good years between busts.

As Don Carty famously said, 'never invest in airline stock.'

We are soon to be down to three legacies. The LCC's are stagnating. Commuters have become regionals where many will spend their careers.

Is anyone encouraging their children to follow in their footsteps?