Skywest Concessions

[COOPERVANE]

We may have just gotten your work rules, but now they can't simply be taken away next week with the stroke of a pen. Yours can. No union, no guarantees. ASA may become the new darling of Skywest Inc. Y'all may want to lock your deal in while you still can.

Easy....Easy Let's not get crazy!!

ASA will never be JA's darling.

Mostly a thorn in his side.

 

[Fishpaw]

Originally Posted By Flyer2000
You do realize that SkyWest has been paying "credit" (historical) times for all SkyWest DH flights for quite sometime?

that is BH's argument to many of the changes that come down is "this is how it has always been done". That statement was what he said about cancellation pay as well.

I think I will submit that if the company wants the concession of credit times for DH, then perhaps we should counter with.....credit or actual whichever is greater.

How did Skywest change cancellation pay?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Where are you toolbag? All I hear are crickets chirping.......

This idiot has criticized everything ASA pilots have done from day 1...... Now that he is getting screwed, where is he?

-Excellent point!

He is in a bathroom at the MSP airport tapping his foot, but as soon as they open the stall door and see him dressed in the F/As uniform they want no blowjob from him/it.
PBR

 

[Ski Bum]

Cancellation Pay was paid this way for 35 years...

Credit / Actual Block / PAID
1:30 / 1:45 / 1:45
1:30 / 1:45 / 1:45
1:30 / CXL / 1:30
1:30 / CXL / 1:30
6.00 / 3:30 / 6:30

Recently (last few months) it has been paid this way...

Credit / Actual Block / PAID
1:30 / 1:45 / 1:30
1:30 / 1:45 / 1:30
1:30 / CXL / 1:30
1:30 / CXL / 1:30
6.00 / 3:30 / 6.00

In other words we are getting paid only our minimum daily guarantee instead of block or better plus cancellation pay.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Yeah SAPA is a joke. And I'm voting in the union, but not happily. Don't you realize you just got Skywest's work rules, the one's they've had for the past 7 years? 9 year crj capt at ASA makes roughly 74. Skywest $72. Take off 2% and you're making $.52 an hour more after Union dues. "Get us some of it"? Gimme a break.

It's almost $6.00 an hour more at ASA on the 200 at the top end...that's pretty substantial!

 

[capt. megadeth]

Ok, I'll be the first to admit that I didn't really care for Skywest to go ALPA previously. I have always been a union person but when my fiancee started there, I thought Skywest treated their pilots pretty well. However, after the joke of a "pay raise" that management gave (even with a possible union vote looming), it just shows me that they no longer want to treat the pilots fairly or give a crap. I say if you guys don't vote it in, that will be management's sign that they can pretty much do whatever they want to you.....and they will.

 

[joe_pilot]

Cancellation Pay was paid this way for 35 years...

Credit / Actual Block / PAID
1:30 / 1:45 / 1:45
1:30 / 1:45 / 1:45
1:30 / CXL / 1:30
1:30 / CXL / 1:30
6.00 / 3:30 / 6:30

Recently (last few months) it has been paid this way...

Credit / Actual Block / PAID
1:30 / 1:45 / 1:30
1:30 / 1:45 / 1:30
1:30 / CXL / 1:30
1:30 / CXL / 1:30
6.00 / 3:30 / 6.00

In other words we are getting paid only our minimum daily guarantee instead of block or better plus cancellation pay.

Good Info. Thanks Ski Bum.

Now what I want to know is what % of pay does DH represent on average? No, no, I am NOT defending this policy. I'm just trying to get honest, good data. Yes, I agree we need to stop the slide, but I also want real info.

Anybody have an idea about this?

Thanks,

-JP

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Good Info. Thanks Ski Bum.

Now what I want to know is what % of pay does DH represent on average? No, no, I am NOT defending this policy. I'm just trying to get honest, good data. Yes, I agree we need to stop the slide, but I also want real info.

Anybody have an idea about this?

Thanks,

-JP

Almost every one of my trips last month had at least one DH and sometimes more...and on the majority the actual block time was significantly longer than the actual credit we got paid!!! It adds up over the course of a month, let alone the full year!!!!

 

[jayme]

It's the principle to me. "Clarification" my ass. It is perfectly clear, no need to clarifiy anything, just man up and pay us like you agreed to.