Skywest buys more 700/900s

[Goose Egg]

How's staffing on the Bro right now? Is sched- doing anything for FOs? Are reserves getting used and abused or memorizing next weeks guests on Oprah?

Well, I sat reserve for a grand total of approximately 3 hours and I had a line that started the next day right out of training, so that may tell us something. I haven't really done much with Sched- because I want all the trips I have (for $$ and flight time) and I with commuting don't really have time to pick up open time--to be honest I've only logged on to it one time.

-Goose

 

[SkyNation]

I heard Jerry said that there will be some 200s going away as well as the Bros, so in the end our total aircraft will be the same number.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

NextGen means nothing. Just another attempted rebranding of the same old torture tube.

 

[Speedtape]

Quick question for a Skywest pilot:

If you are seat locked on the E120, are you pay protected if someone junior to you (new hire) is hired into the jet? Is your pay locked also along with the seat lock?

 

[Bako Cap]

Doesn't matter, ALL first year pilots are paid $19.25.

 

[OCP]

Doesn't matter, ALL first year pilots are paid $19.25.

Yeah Speetape! They'll just upgrade in a year anyway. Why should they worry about little things like that?

 

[airtime42]

All you skywest pu$$ies might as well weep in your metrosexual coffee because not one of those jets will be going to Skywest Airlines. Remember you sally's voted down ALPA Jerry knows he has you by the shorthairs.

 

[OCP]

I'd bet they still get a fair amount of them if not all.

 

[strega7]

This is from the latest SkyWest newspaper,

While a manufacturer has not yet been selected for these aircraft ; we expect an announcement before the next edition of Headlines is produced. We anticipate the first delivery will be in February 2008, when SkyWest will acquire two UAX RJ aircraft SkyWest will then receive additional aircraft through March of 2010. All 22 aircraft will be operated by SkyWest.

 

[Bako Cap]

Yeah Speetape! They'll just upgrade in a year anyway. Why should they worry about little things like that?

I never said anything about upgrade. I guess I'll go into more detail for you so I don't seem callous to you. If a new hire is in the EMB then they are seat locked for one year. If someone is hired into the CRJ during that year it does not hurt the EMB guy because they are both getting paid the same. There have not been and I do not see in the future, any problems with seat locked EMB new hires getting the first CRJ class after their seat lock.

 

[Andy Neill]

...If someone is hired into the CRJ during that year it does not hurt the EMB guy because they are both getting paid the same. There have not been and I do not see in the future, any problems with seat locked EMB new hires getting the first CRJ class after their seat lock.

Not to mention the fact that EMB guys probably are getting paid more the first year because they get paid more hours (less reserve and higher monthly limit) earlier (training shorter) at the same rate.

 

[ex j-41]

When an airplane can go coast to coast i hardly think we should be calling it a Regional Jet.
Time for the airlines to cough up some $$$

 

[John Pennekamp]

You all are so naive. Jerry is dangling a carrot. You COULD get the planes beginning in 2/08. But alas, they will "propose" a pay cut to SAPA in January, which will be refused, then the airplanes will come to ASA. Then you'll get a "second chance" in late '08, and a few of the remaining ones will come your way.

You are all new to this game. We've seen it before.

 

[OCP]

I never said anything about upgrade. I guess I'll go into more detail for you so I don't seem callous to you. If a new hire is in the EMB then they are seat locked for one year. If someone is hired into the CRJ during that year it does not hurt the EMB guy because they are both getting paid the same. There have not been and I do not see in the future, any problems with seat locked EMB new hires getting the first CRJ class after their seat lock.

But what about the 2nd year? When someone goes to the EMB and then has a standing bid in for the CRJ. But the company elects to put a new hire in the CRJ. Is the EMB pilot pay protected? i.e. will they recieve CRJ pay while flying the EMB?

 

[strega7]

You all are so naive. Jerry is dangling a carrot. You COULD get the planes beginning in 2/08. But alas, they will "propose" a pay cut to SAPA in January, which will be refused, then the airplanes will come to ASA. Then you'll get a "second chance" in late '08, and a few of the remaining ones will come your way.

If anything close to this happens, I will personally find you and buy you the biggest bottle of Crown Royal I can find. If it doesn't happen, well I guess your crystal ball may be a little foggy and your just trying to be "funny".

 

[John Pennekamp]

If anything close to this happens, I will personally find you and buy you the biggest bottle of Crown Royal I can find. If it doesn't happen, well I guess your crystal ball may be a little foggy and your just trying to be "funny".

You're on.

 

[Bako Cap]

But what about the 2nd year? When someone goes to the EMB and then has a standing bid in for the CRJ. But the company elects to put a new hire in the CRJ. Is the EMB pilot pay protected? i.e. will they recieve CRJ pay while flying the EMB?

It goes in order of seniority. The EMB guy should get the first class date that his/her seniority and base request can hold. There are some EMB FOs that put in for a senior base and are denied CRJ training due to the base being more senior than he/she can hold or if senior enough do not have the pilot slots available for a particular base. If the EMB FO wants any base that is currently being filled (withstanding their seniority) then the EMB FO will get the next CRJ class.

 

[OCP]

It goes in order of seniority. The EMB guy should get the first class date that his/her seniority and base request can hold. There are some EMB FOs that put in for a senior base and are denied CRJ training due to the base being more senior than he/she can hold or if senior enough do not have the pilot slots available for a particular base. If the EMB FO wants any base that is currently being filled (withstanding their seniority) then the EMB FO will get the next CRJ class.

To clarify... 1: The company can if they want to bypass a current pilot and put a new hire in a CRJ. IF that happens if the current pilot pay protected?
2: If the EMB is going away they will freeze seats on it right? Say it takes over a year to get rid of all of them due to a variety of reasons. Take the Bros at ASA. They were going away then they weren't etc. and now the current ATRs. Supposed to be gone a few years ago. So again a senior pilot may not get a CRJ slot that they want but the company will fill it with a new hire. Again pay protection?

 

[strega7]

2: If the EMB is going away they will freeze seats on it right? Say it takes over a year to get rid of all of them due to a variety of reasons.

We have 59 EMB's right now. We are taking 23 off contract flying and keeping 5 of those on a pro-rate basis. There (for now) will still be 41 EMB's in the fleet.

 

[Jmoney]

He's Right...

If anything close to this happens, I will personally find you and buy you the biggest bottle of Crown Royal I can find. If it doesn't happen, well I guess your crystal ball may be a little foggy and your just trying to be "funny".

This is exactly what will happen. They have played Comair and ASA against each other several times in the past. I would not bet against John on this one.