skybus is so cheap......

[HA25]

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"as for Skybus.. I hate Skybus, what more is there to say, but I admit the video was nice, and bifocals don't bother me one bit!"

Nice post you made a few months ago. Who is the pot and kettle now. What a piece of work.

breaking news.. I've already said I've had a change of mind, and that I've been wrong.. that only lends my view more credibility. I can admit when I've been wrong, can you?

Tell me... do you have the balls to tell those senior WN captains you rode on the coat tails off that they were scabs in the early days of WN when they were undercutting everyone? Common now..

 

[PCL_128]

No, I'm done with this debate. You've obviously made up your mind that you're willing to undercut everyone to get ahead yourself, so this debate is pointless. Enjoy your "career" at Skybus.

 

[vixin]

Tell me... do you have the balls to tell those senior WN captains you rode on the coat tails off that they were scabs in the early days of WN when they were undercutting everyone? Common now..

I never rode any coat tails. My work and dedication got me where I am at today. I didnt aim low like yourself. It is funny how Stybus was scum now they are the best since sliced bread.

And yes I have had those balls you mentioned. I have asked several Caps at SWA why they did what they did out of curiosity. I have also told them I couldnt do that. Most here are great and can handle an adult conversation. I would rather do something else in life then make fast food manager wages flying for an airline. Plus there are plenty of others hiring. I think your biggest desire is to be a CA of a shiney new airplane. Then people will admire just how great you are.

 

[HA25]

Vixin... I don't know if your a he or a she (betting the latter), but you can debate till you're blue in the face.. THE FACTS ARE, those old timers at WN are why you are where you are.. that outfit would never have gotten off the ground, and you would be working for some place worse. If your ego is so big as to believe that where one works in this industry has anything to do with how good a pilot he is rather than pure luck... without the benefit of hindsight, you're a lost cause then.

Would you EVER have believed me, if in 1999 I came to you and said that the day would come when America West would launch a hostile bid on Delta? Or buy USAir?

Do you think that the guy who turned down Delta Airlines in 1979 to go to work for Easter because it was "the better outfit" doesn't kick himself in the ass and cry himself to bed every night?

Do you think that those WN captains that are in your own definition scabs, most of whom are millionaires give a rats ass what you think?

I'm not saying Skybus will be another Southwest.. but there is NO return on low risk. My neighbor down the street is a new hire at WN, he's doing ok.. but he'll never be where I can be if Skybus' business model takes off like Southwest did in the 80's..

 

[CA1900]

... I can tell you that 5000 stock options can be worth 100's of thousands.....

Yeah, ask any CommutAir pilot how his ESOP stock value is doing...

 

[vixin]

Vixin... I don't know if your a he or a she (betting the latter), but you can debate till you're blue in the face.. THE FACTS ARE, those old timers at WN are why you are where you are.. that outfit would never have gotten off the ground, and you would be working for some place worse. I dont agree with this. I am here because I wanted to be here and applied. If SWA wasnt around or one of the leaders I would have applied elsewhere. I would not apply to companies like Stybus. If your ego is so big as to believe that where one works in this industry has anything to do with how good a pilot he is rather than pure luck... I dont really understand where this came from. I just fly airplanes for a living, I am not Chuck Yeager never claimed to be. I am just a down to earth line pilot.

Would you EVER have believed me, if in 1999 I came to you and said that the day would come when America West would launch a hostile bid on Delta? Or buy USAir? Nope I wouldnt times change.

Do you think that the guy who turned down Delta Airlines in 1979 to go to work for Easter because it was "the better outfit" doesn't kick himself in the ass and cry himself to bed every night? I hope he doesnt cry himself to bed. He should seek some counseling then. I have flown with guys that have been at 4/5 airlines. They lived threw it. Just like I would if something happened to SWA.

Do you think that those WN captains that are in your own definition scabs, most of whom are millionaires give a rats ass what you think? Nope I dont think they care. But I never called them scabs.

I'm not saying Skybus will be another Southwest.. but there is NO return on low risk. My neighbor down the street is a new hire at WN, he's doing ok.. but he'll never be where I can be if Skybus' business model takes off like Southwest did in the 80's..

Heck nobody nows where that may be. SWA may not exist in 20 years. Stybus may not last until next year. We will have to wait and see. Hes doing ok. Thats funny. This year he will make 50-75 depending on if he works or not. Next year he will be 100+. With the profit sharing, 401k, better benefits etc. You may have stock options that maybe worth something sometime. I hear they ask you to sign a little piece of paper to get those options. Some still havent received their options. Time will tell. But I dont understand why one would work for such low sorry wages and working conditions. Stability in this business is priceless. As you should know being ex AMR.

 

[HA25]

Yeah, ask any CommutAir pilot how his ESOP stock value is doing...

and ESOP and stock options are about as similar as a Beach 1900 and an MD11..

The fact is, nobody at Skybus is making a big pay day like over at the majors.. they're all betting on an IPO and from the CEO on down, it's all about building share holder value and selling it on the market.

stay tuned..

 

[HA25]

I hear they ask you to sign a little piece of paper to get those options. Some still havent received their options.

I can tell you this much, and I haven't heard anything solid to lead me to believe it to be true, but if they do that.. I will not be receiving any options. I have yet to be invited to an interview.. and once I am (if I am), I will report on my findings positive or negative.

nite..

 

[HA25]

Skybus is so cheap that they just closed this sweat heart deal..

http://www.sun-herald.com/Newsstory.cfm?pubdate=101907&story=tp8ch4.htm&folder=NewsArchive2

 

[PCL_128]

Skybus is so cheap that they just closed this sweat heart deal..

http://www.sun-herald.com/Newsstory.cfm?pubdate=101907&story=tp8ch4.htm&folder=NewsArchive2

And yet their pilots are still a bunch of scumsucking whores.