SkyBus gone tonight!!!

[Shrek]

my money is on SHREK he is a big mother well u know peace brother

How you been big daddy ?! Got a question for ya - do you have any window switches for a Malibu ?

Remember the "screams" on New Year's Eve......LOL

 

[popgoesbubble]

Slow down there mvedepo,

Show me one post of mine that I bashed a Skybus pilot. Not one.

I don't like Skybus, never said I didn't like the pilots. Worked with most of them at ACA and trying to help the ones I can as we speak.

I lost my job just over two years ago too if you remember. ACA/Indy.

Re-read my post and insert your foot into your mouth.

Read the part where I purchased tickets on Delta for less then Skybus!!! You can read can't you?

Learn to read and go pick a fight with someone else.

Hawk Hope your able to help out J.A. he was a good guy to work with and fly with at ACA/Indy. I was sorry to see him leave NJA thought it was a Big Mistake but I think he still had eyes for big planes. Hope things are going well for you guys at VA.

 

[ultrarunner]

Why is everyone giving in before summer busy season?

Cuz it might not be that busy....

 

[hawk996]

Hey mvedepo,

Sorry, Thought you were busting me out.

Popgoesbubble,

Wrong hawk but I know who you are talking about. Yes JA is a great guy and we are trying to help him out with VA, JB or anything else.

Sounds like some of them are going to see what they can find in China.

It's going to be a bumpy road, hold on tight!!!!!

 

[vrb115]

should have them meake and model and year of car also wht side you need and i'll check it out when i get home on tuesday peace out brother

 

[motch]

MV..

Since you decide to mock my military service, I'll ask you to at least get it right.

Looking at my profile you would see my position as FO/FE.
I am a C5 FE, though I was a LM on a Herk (slicks and Talon 1's!) at one time. Either way... required crewmember though as an FE I do log my time as it's a flightdeck crewmember.

What service were you in?

 

[mvedepo]

MV..

Since you decide to mock my military service, I'll ask you to at least get it right.

Looking at my profile you would see my position as FO/FE.
I am a C5 FE, though I was a LM on a Herk (slicks and Talon 1's!) at one time. Either way... required crewmember though as an FE I do log my time as it's a flightdeck crewmember.

What service were you in?

I mock you just as you mock the careers of your fellow pilots. And as for my military background. I was in the army for 8 years. I was a machine gunner (M-60 and Saw). 2 of the years I spent as a drill Sgt training infantrymen in Ft Benning, Ga. So yes I did my time.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Look at the bright side:

No more fetching water from COSTCO to quench your crew.

 

[motch]

First of all, they are not my fellow pilots.

Since you're ex-military.. I'll ask you this question. Is everyone who wears a uniform equal? You may think so, I differ.

Someone who serves, for better or worse during peacetime and war is held in higher esteem to me than someone who joins for the college benefits and then decides to disobey orders to be deployed overseas.

IMO, Skybus was a ploy by a bunch of managers and investors to see if they could run a airline, with no frills, no pay and minimum costs to themselves while trying to reek the benefits.
From day one, they used false advertising to get passengers.
Telling passengers that they were flying to major metro areas when in fact they were flying to outstations. They flew to Newburgh NY which is actually over 60 miles north of NYC!
They flaunted $10 tickets but in reality they only had a handful of seats at those prices.

And worse, they tried to lure (successfully) pilots with thoughts of PIC time or quick upgrades and stock options in lieu of pay.

Just because someone puts on a pilot uniform doesn't make him a fellow pilot with no consequences for his actions.
The few pilots that I know who went there are not people I would want to be associated with. And while there are over 110 other pilots there... I would question their reasoning for going there.

Have you noticed that NO ONE is happy/gloating/talking crap about the other 3 airlines that closed their doors this week. Why is that?


Always
Motch

PS> Are you an ex-Skybus pilot?

 

[Princedietrich]

Hey motch, everyone knows that real pilots fly sideways. :beer:

 

[Jimmy C. Corn]

Just because legacies are hiring doesn't mean they are going to hire everyone. And YES people need to still put food on the table.

You must be a VA guy.

Please stop dragging wages and work rules down. Your short-sightedness is hurting all pilots.

 

[Clavin]

I am happy that Skybus is gone. I hope a few of the others fail as well (Virgin)

And concerning whether or not I should feel too bad for their pilots: How bad do you think Skybus pilots would have felt if their company had instead announced big plans to grow their airline at ATL, DFW, and DEN, taking flying away from pilots at the majors?

They wouldn't mourn the loss of jobs at American, the furloughs at Delta, and the further lowering of wages at UAL. Hel l no, they would be celebrating their quick upgrade to bigtime Airbus/Skybus captain.

 

[masedogg19]

That's a pretty ignorant post

 

[Clavin]

That's a pretty ignorant post

So you're saying that Skybus pilots wouldn't have been overjoyed at the prospect of a big juicy Skybus operation out of DFW, ATL or DEN at the cost of their "brothers" at AA, DAL and UAL?

 

[masedogg19]

They probably would have been excited about expansion. Just like AirTran in ATL, Southwest in PHL and Frontier in DEN. Competition isn't always a bad thing. And I highly doubt that a few flights a day would have done too much damage to their "brothers." ......that's an almost dead concept anyway, it's about what's best for you, first....me first is the American way

 

[troll565]

Skybus owes at least $50 million, according to Chapter 11 filing​

"Bankrupt Skybus Airlines owes $13.5 million to its top 20 unsecured creditors — companies who lent money to the airline without collateral — and at least $50 million overall after filing for bankruptcy protection under Chapter 11 of U.S. Bankruptcy Code." That's according to the Greensboro (N.C.) News & Record, one of several media outlets to report today on Skybus' bankruptcy filing. The Dayton Business Journal says Skybus' filing "listed total liabilities of between $50 million and $100 million owed to between 200 and 1,000 creditors. … It listed assets of between $100 million and $500 million."
The Columbus Dispatch writes "World Fuel Management of Chicago is listed as the largest creditor, owed $8.5 million, according to the filing, dated Saturday. Airbus North America is owed $1.9 million, the filing says. Other major creditors include: American Express, owed $600,000; Airport Terminal Services, $300,000; SourceSpeed, $250,000; and the Columbus Regional Airport Authority, $200,000." Despite the Chapter 11 filing –- often used by airlines that keep flying while they reorganize -– Skybus spokesman Bob Tenenbaum tells Bloomberg News "this is a shutdown. All of (the aircraft) will end up in the bankruptcy proceeding."

 

[motch]

Thank Prince...

Sitting sideways has taught me a lot. And going through ANY FE course run by the military is truly an eye opening event!

Always
motch

 

[Shrek]

They probably would have been excited about expansion. Just like AirTran in ATL, Southwest in PHL and Frontier in DEN. Competition isn't always a bad thing. And I highly doubt that a few flights a day would have done too much damage to their "brothers." ......that's an almost dead concept anyway, it's about what's best for you, first....me first is the American way

Isn't there a corporate section on here?!........run along now.

The best we can hope for is that a new "SkyBus" doesn't crop up in its place. Because those same "ME FIRST" people will be the first in line to do it again.

 

[masedogg19]

Isn't there a corporate section on here?!........run along now.

The best we can hope for is that a new "SkyBus" doesn't crop up in its place. Because those same "ME FIRST" people will be the first in line to do it again.

Ah yes.....so my past experience in the 121 world must mean nothing....since I am corporate now.....thanks for reminding me why I got out of the airlines

 

[Shrek]

Ah yes.....so my past experience in the 121 world must mean nothing....since I am corporate now.....thanks for reminding me why I got out of the REGIONAL airlines

It is VERY interesting that you defend the SkyBus pilots decision to undercut the industry...........when it does not affect your future at ALL - If the shoe was on the other foot I am sure you would feel different.