Single Representation at SWA/AirTran

[DUBLINFLYER]

PCL, how far could you throw ALPA? - they would not go far as they would be in your back pocket straight away gobbling up the union dues until the end

 

[Phlintstone]

That's because most could give a rat's ass about ALPA. After the way things went down, most could give a rat's ass about SWAPA as well.

Put me in this category...

Phred

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

I think ALPA should remain AAI's representative until the partition is taken down and all disputes and lawsuits related to the SLI are settled. Also it's very important PCL gets best pay until the last day.

 

[Crash Pad]

And yet, the thread seems to be getting a big yawn by most.

Say we stick with ALPA, no change in day to day life.

Say we switch to SWAPA, no change in day to day life.

I can see why this isn't burning up cockpits or forums.

 

[ron burgundy]

Airtran pilots are our brothers and sisters now...while we have our 2%ers, the other 98% will not tolerate them getting bent over by SWAPA or SWA.

Thank you for your realism and maturity level!

Nobody surveyed either side asking us what we felt about this, prior to the news.

We are cogs in the machine. Adapt and overcome. If people haven't learned that by now....sorry!

 

[Mk3tm]

Let's see...ALPA fouled up the seniority integration, rejected SWA pay rates, rejected a fence for AT guys, rejected 850 captain seats, got embarrassed after a pathetic do-over attempt in the DRC arbitration, and now ALPA has decided it's time for SWAPA to take over.

Classic.

 

[redflyer65]

Exactly right MK.

 

[Mk3tm]

For the sake of AT guys I hope it works, but why would SWAPA be in any hurry to take over representation?

 

[PCL_128]

Exactly right MK.

Not really.

 

[redflyer65]

Not really.

I pretty sure everything he said was factual. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it false. Sorry.

 

[Mk3tm]

Let's see...ALPA fouled up the seniority integration, rejected SWA pay rates, rejected a fence for AT guys, rejected 850 captain seats, got embarrassed after a pathetic do-over attempt in the DRC arbitration, and now ALPA has decided it's time for SWAPA to take over.

Classic.

I agree, that's not exactly right.

To be more exact, ALPA leadership fouled up the seniority integration, rejected SWA pay rates on behalf of AT pilots, rejected a fence for AT guys on behalf of AT pilots, rejected captain seats for 850 AT captains on behalf of AT pilots, and rejected furlough protection on behalf of AT pilots, but ALPA leadership unanimously accepted a seniority integration deal with none of those features and virtually no improvement in seniority, then embarrassed itself with a pathetic do-over attempt in the DRC arbitration in which the arbitrator noted that all of the remedies sought had been available to ALPA but rejected by ALPA leadership without allowing AT pilots to vote on them, and now ALPA leadership has decided it's time for SWAPA to take over.

That's way more exactly right.

 

[Ty Webb]

Yeah, let's all blame ALPA!!!

It isn't like SWAPA was trying to "capture" every Captain seat, or anything,

Or, that SWA management threatened to part us out.

It was just dat ol' debbil up in Herndon, and and his damn moustache catalog.

 

[Mk3tm]

Yes, ALPA is to blame. Exactly.

 

[PCL_128]

I pretty sure everything he said was factual. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it false. Sorry.

No, not even close to factual. Just uninformed speculation that happens to be completely false. Sorry.

 

[waveflyer]

Says one of the many people that ABSOLUTELY has to say and sell that.

Good luck pcl

 

[Mk3tm]

No, not even close to factual. Just uninformed speculation that happens to be completely false. Sorry.

Everything I wrote is precisely factual, fully informed, and non-speculative. The DRC arbitration ruling alone spells out a great deal of it. Perhaps you didn't read through that?

 

[Ty Webb]

Yes, ALPA is to blame. Exactly.

Oh, grow the f up. Seriously.

You're a little late to the party.

Maybe, if you learn to stand on your head really well, and pony up some bucks, Ringmaster Tommie will let you join the circus.


:laugh:

 

[PCL_128]

Everything I wrote is precisely factual, fully informed, and non-speculative. The DRC arbitration ruling alone spells out a great deal of it. Perhaps you didn't read through that?

Not only did I read it, but I agreed with his decision. That has nothing to do with your deranged ramblings about ALPA, though.

 

[Kenney G]

Yes, ALPA is to blame. Exactly.

Didn't AirTran pilots vote for the agreement? Did you vote no?

 

[Mk3tm]

Not only did I read it, but I agreed with his decision. That has nothing to do with your deranged ramblings about ALPA, though.

Ok, well, my comments reflect his decision. How, then, are my comments "deranged"?