Simcom Orlando question

[CFIcare]

Has anyone here gone through the LR-35 initial training at Simcom ORL? I'm helping a friend with some research but all of my personal training was at SimuFlite (LR 31/35/55) and FlightSafety (LR45).

Does Simcom have a Level C Lear 35 sim?

Do they require you to have your ATP before going for your type, and if so, why can't they tack it on to your type ride?

Also does anyone have any comments good/bad/ugly as to their experience there, and how you thought it was cost versus value-wise.

Thanks!

 

[skysurfer76]

i personally like simcom....they can be a little too laid back at times and it may be b/c i have been with them on the king airs for the past 8 years. I went to them for the citation and kingair recurrency. Went to simuflite for the initial citation. I'm pretty sure you can get your atp with simcom b/c they have a level c sim for the 35...thats the difference...no motion...no atp ride...I would say its worth it only if your friend has a good back ground in turbine flying. the reason i say this is because they don't press much on standard call outs or standard configurations. They just want to make sure you can fly the plane and be safe.

 

[Seadogrun]

My experience with Simcom is as follows:

If you need the certificate, go to simcom.

If you need the training (which we all do) go elsewhere.

There's alot of misinformation being taught there.

 

[CFIcare]

My experience with Simcom is as follows:

If you need the certificate, go to simcom.

If you need the training (which we all do) go elsewhere.

There's alot of misinformation being taught there.

Yeah that's kinda what I heard too...thanks!

 

[Boris Badenov]

Just did MU-2 recurrent there. It was a little bit "laid back", yes. Personally, I see that as a positive, but to each their own. The facility was clean, things started and ended on time, and the instructor was highly knowledgable about the airplane and had thousands of hours doing the sort of flying we do. I have no complaints. YMMV.

 

[learflyer]

There's alot of misinformation being taught there.

yeah, like what?

 

[Seadogrun]

I'm not going to get into specifics here, but in the classes I attended was in there was a large lack of knowlege of aircraft systems which led to the misinformation being taught.

 

[learflyer]

In the hawker program?

 

[SEVEN]

Been to Simcom and Flight Safety. Simcom definately gets the job done but is more laid back than Flight Safety.

 

[Reynard Driver]

Simcom Orlando

I have been thru 57 Lr35 recurrents some at Simcom, some at Simuflight, and some at Flightsafety. If you want someone that will practically fax you a rating go to Simcom. If you want to really learn the airplane go to Flightsafety. If you want something in between go to Simuflight. Simcom is a joke.

 

[dhc8fo]

Sim-comical....

 

[learflyer]

once again, a bunch of pu$$ies with no examples.

 

[sleddriver71]

I went through SIMCOM for the initial PC-12. Even though the job we were training for was a 2 pilot crew, SIMCOM, or at least our instructor (Tom Goonan) didn't involve any CRM, he had us do all the sim work as single pilot. He was very knowledgeable about the aircraft. Beyond that, I could tell he was a sim instructor and lacked a great deal of real world flying. He was trying to tell me how to deal with ice when it sounded like he had very little experience with it. I flew 135 for 5 years based out of Seattle (BFI) so I got very accustomed to dealing with icing encounters, how to avoid it and how to deal with it once it accumulates. Anyway, there was no way to fail the training, so I totally agree that if you just want the certificate and don't care about training, SIMCOM is fine. I hope to go to FLIGHTSAFETY someday, they sound like a much better operation.