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Silly question about Ground Zero

mar

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Alright guys, take it easy on me.

Here's the deal: A couple of weeks ago I visited Ground Zero for the first time. It was hot and humid but I walked from Penn Station to Ground Zero. Then I walked around Wall Street. Then I walked through Greenwich Village and back to Penn Station and I kept walking to Central Park...and then back to Penn Station.

I drank a lot of water, got some serious blisters and then the very next day I got the *worst* outbreak of hives I've ever experienced in my life (from my neck to my legs)!

My first thought was that I developed a heat rash, but long story short (too late, I know) the hives were so bad that I didn't sleep for two nights and I actually called in sick because there was no way I was in any shape to serve as a crewmember.

I visited a doctor for the "heat rash" and he said, No, that's allergies and prescribed prednisone for the inflammation.

I told him that I've had allergies my entire life but I've NEVER reacted like this before.

Well the hives lasted a total of nine days and last night I get a phone call from my parents who told me they heard that some people who visit Ground Zero have broken out in hives and have had similiar physical reactions to the site.

Is that the nuttiest thing you've ever heard?

Or not.

I'm at a total loss as to the cause of the hives. I ate nothing unusual and didn't wash my clothes in any new detergent.

Can't figure it out but I don't want to repeat that experience.
 

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It means that you're allergic to Jet Fuel, the only way you're going to survive is to go back to flying recips for hte rest of your career
 

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mar said:
Alright guys, take it easy on me.

Here's the deal: A couple of weeks ago I visited Ground Zero for the first time. It was hot and humid but I walked from Penn Station to Ground Zero. Then I walked around Wall Street. Then I walked through Greenwich Village and back to Penn Station and I kept walking to Central Park...and then back to Penn Station.

I drank a lot of water, got some serious blisters and then the very next day I got the *worst* outbreak of hives I've ever experienced in my life (from my neck to my legs)!

My first thought was that I developed a heat rash, but long story short (too late, I know) the hives were so bad that I didn't sleep for two nights and I actually called in sick because there was no way I was in any shape to serve as a crewmember.

I visited a doctor for the "heat rash" and he said, No, that's allergies and prescribed prednisone for the inflammation.

I told him that I've had allergies my entire life but I've NEVER reacted like this before.

Well the hives lasted a total of nine days and last night I get a phone call from my parents who told me they heard that some people who visit Ground Zero have broken out in hives and have had similiar physical reactions to the site.

Is that the nuttiest thing you've ever heard?

Or not.

I'm at a total loss as to the cause of the hives. I ate nothing unusual and didn't wash my clothes in any new detergent.

Can't figure it out but I don't want to repeat that experience.


No, no, no, Mar, you got it all wrong. It was that girl in Hong Kong!!!! Either that or the toilet seat in the plane.........
 

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I had hives once. You feel like your skin is trying to jump off of you and it is itchy and as painful as hell. Mine was from shrimp. I had eaten too many, as I can eat a few without a reaction but after a certain amount I become a blowfish.

Heat and mental stress can aggravate it.

You can be not allergic to anything and then the next year be very allergic to stuff, that is how the immune system works.

I bet it was something you ate, they bury all sorts of stuff in food these days. Could also be an insect but that usually starts very localized.

I didn't wait 2 days, I went right to the hospital (if your breathing pipes swell, you can die suddenly) and they gave me IV cortisone and IV benadryl. Better by night although drugged beyond belief.

Be careful what you eat before you climb into the cockpit!
 

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GravityHater said:
I had hives once. You feel like your skin is trying to jump off of you and it is itchy and as painful as hell. Mine was from shrimp. I had eaten too many, as I can eat a few without a reaction but after a certain amount I become a blowfish.

"....always in moderation"

-mini
 

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Maybe it is not as strange as it seems. Take all of that Jet A burning all types of materials, plastics, whatever, and there has to be some very toxic chemical reactions, and the residue still has to be around. But then again maybe its a subliminal desire to hear those R 2800's run again.

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I never had a problem down around ground zero...I have been to the AMEX bldg across the street several times....must have been something you ate
 

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I agree with BD King. With allergies, as you know, there are many things that can set you off without knowing it. Perhaps it was asbestos that was maybe in the buildings. Not sure if they used it, but it was built in the early 70's, so there may be a chance. The combination of that, the Jet A and anything else that burned probably did it.

I have allergy induced asthma. When I went to the Mayo Clinic about four years ago to be tested (we did not know what kept making me sick - had no idea I had the asthma), they did the test where they fill your back with all those holes and pour things in them. I had such a huge case of hives that they would not let me leave the hospital. I was allergic to things that do not even grow in Arizona.

Kathy
 

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I don't know how often you walk around big cities.. but.. that is quite a hike you took. From my walks around Manhattan, including ground zero, I remember that it can be a very dirty place... perhaps you just picked up something? Touched your face/eyes inadvertently, after touching something nasty (public transit system comes to mind)... you know, the things that big-city people probably are immune to.. just a thought.
 

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This thread makes me feel itchy-

Mar,

I had hives like that once too, I got them because I used a "natural" based lotion to my face, arms and neck because I had some really dry skin. I had hives for about two weeks after that, but only on the places I put the lotion. I wonder why you only got them from the neck down to your legs. Usually the face swells and you also get hives on the face, as well as the rest of your body, if it's from something you ate.

I've had alergic reactions happen as a result of commulitive exposures to things that by themselves would't necessisarily get a reaction. I'm wondering if your clothing wasn't the cause of this one since your face didn't get the hives. Because you were sweating and it was humid for a long period of time, maybe it was a one time reaction to soap reisidue left in your clothes. I've gotten hives from using too much soap in the washer before, and it was the same laundry detergent I used as a child till today. The hives from that only happened once, and were gone in three days.

I think hives are somewhat fickle, and I've never heard of the WTC bathtub causing them.
 

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in all seriousness, what about your laundry detergent? was a different one used on the clothes that you wore at ground zero? i know that my ex-g/f could only use 1 kind of detergent b/c the others would make her break out. another ex could only use deodorant, not deodorant/anti-perspirant b/c she would break out. the body is funny like that.
 

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NookyBooky said:

Yes, that certainly is STRANGE, but STRANGER things have happened..Ha, Ha.. The moderators should get this reference.
 

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Thanks to everyone for the responses and not tearing me to shreds.

I thought it was sort of nutty but you never know.

Definitely *not* birth control pills. But thanks for asking.
 
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