sics paying for time

[ePilot22]

flying Part 135 in the right seat ( ONLY ONE PILOT REQUIRE)...I ment one pilot required...For the third time, the aircraft I'm flying DOES NOT REQUIRE AN FO

You can NOT log SIC time in a plane that only requires one pilot. (well really, you can log what ever you want, it'll just help your next employer realize how truely stupid you are!) Make sure and tell them you flew SIC on a single pilot aircraft.






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[troy]

Sorry you feel that way. If I would be young, single with no family to support and with no money I will probably go for my CFIs. Why take a paycut now? When it comes to my wife and two kids I'm gonna do what is best for them period. Good flying!!

PAYCUT?????? You are PAYING someone to fly!!!

 

[fre8ersic]

We don't have any good pits here in town, just Famous Dave's. It's fairly good, but nothing compaired to the real stuff.

fre8ersic, I think that you have a fetish for the "parents" thing. When you actually grow up and figure out what you want to do in life, come back and see us. Till then, go away. You don't like what you asked of the boards? What gives? If your precious PFT is so great, keep it to yourself. Don't ask anybody anymore.

It must suck to have your handle as a permanent SIC

You're telling me to grow up, WHATEVER MAN ! I already accomplished what I wanted to do in life, flying is an extra. You need to quit insulting people and do some growing up. DON'T WRITE BACK.

 

[ePilot22]

It must suck to have your handle as a permanent SIC

HAHAHAHA...LMAO!!! :laugh:! He should have gone with fre8erPFTsic!

Quote:
Originally Posted by fre8ersic
Sorry you feel that way. If I would be young, single with no family to support and with no money I will probably go for my CFIs. Why take a paycut now? When it comes to my wife and two kids I'm gonna do what is best for them period. Good flying!!


PAYCUT?????? You are PAYING someone to fly!!!

See you don't even make sense. You say that we hurt the industry by taking low PAYING jobs, yet YOU are PAYING to work! You might want to review PART 61.51:

(f) Logging second-in-command flight time. A person may log second-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person:

(1) Is qualified in accordance with the second-in-command requirements of §61.55 of this part, and occupies a crewmember station in an aircraft that requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type certificate; or

(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted.

D'oh! So keep telling us how MANY pilots are required on the aircraft you PFT'd.





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[fre8ersic]

You can NOT log SIC time in a plane that only requires one pilot. (well really, you can log what ever you want, it'll just help your next employer realize how truely stupid you are!) Make sure and tell them you flew SIC on a single pilot aircraft.






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" I HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER ANYBODY EXCEPT MY OWN CONFUSION" You are very confused. Read the regs.

 

[troy]

Whatever, you win. I guess the best thing is to PFT everything, even doctors. "Mr. Sic, this is our new associate, Mr. MoneyBags. He will be performing your surgery today. You see, he just droped $100K so that he could bypass his residency." Sucker!

No matter what you tell a ROCK to do, it will still sit there and be a rock.
I'm going to quit talking to rocks.

 

[Bushhatesyou]

If you have taken a 135 checkride, and the company want's two pilots on an aircraft. All of that time can be logged as SIC reguardless of what it is certified for.

I think that time looks better than 600 of duel in a 172. How many times have you flown with a new FO who had no clue how the IFR system works in the real word? How does teaching slow flight, or even primary instrument students help someone make solid choices when it comes to Ice, T-storms, and any other situation impossible to recreate in a 172. Plus if you fly any legs empty/part 91, any time that you are flying, you can log it as PIC.

However you should get paid.. 100-200 a day is average I think.

 

[troy]

on second hand, nevermind, post deleted

 

[Photoflight]

PFTSIC: Your not the brightest crayon in the box are yah?


Oh yah...heres some quick facts for everyone

Chuck Norris does not get frostbite. Chuck Norris bites frost
Remember the Soviet Union? They decided to quit after watching a DeltaForce marathon on Satellite TV.
Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.

 

[ePilot22]

Here's one I heard the other day...

Chuck Norris can divide by 0.


http://chucknorrisfacts.com/




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[81Horse]

"Here's your coffee, Mr. Norris. Is it too strong for you?"

"There is no such thing as strong coffee, m'am -- there are only weak people."

 

[Photoflight]

When J. Robert Oppenheimer said "I am become death, the destroyer Of worlds", He was not referring to the atomic bomb. He was referring to the Chuck Norris halloween costume he was wearing.

 

[Metro752]

awesome Norris jokes

 

[414Flyer]

HAHAHAHA...LMAO!!! :laugh:! He should have gone with fre8erPFTsic!



See you don't even make sense. You say that we hurt the industry by taking low PAYING jobs, yet YOU are PAYING to work! You might want to review PART 61.51:

(f) Logging second-in-command flight time. A person may log second-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person:

(1) Is qualified in accordance with the second-in-command requirements of §61.55 of this part, and occupies a crewmember station in an aircraft that requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type certificate; or

(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted.

D'oh! So keep telling us how MANY pilots are required on the aircraft you PFT'd.
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You are quoting part 61, when the issue is Part 135 operations.
There are ways when the Operation can require or is permitted to use an SIC.

Its been explained many a time on here.

 

[ePilot22]

There are ways when the Operation can require or is permitted to use an SIC.

Which is the catch 22 here...

If the SIC is required or permitted, then a qualified pilot should be in the right seat.

If the SIC is not required or permitted and the SIC pilot is PFT, then they're wasting their money and logging bogus time.

Either way it's a lose-lose situation.

You are quoting part 61, when the issue is Part 135 operations.

Yes I am, but re-read part 61...

(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted.

So part 61 makes exceptions for other parts.

(Chuck Norris is always a required crew member, if not he'll roundhouse kick the FARs until it says he is. .)




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