sics paying for time

[N1FuelFlow]

If 2 pilots are required both should be qualified and be PAID!

If it's a single pilot op then your dumba$$ is a glorified passenger.

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I was an SIC in a metroliner a while back and the metros were single pilot, but the faa qualifies it to make it an optional two pilot crew. I was fortunate to get in before companies stated making people pay. I was paid about 500.00 a month. It was excelent experience but I don't know if I would pay for it. It just seems if they used to hire people off the street people must have screwed their selfs by offering to pay money. I fly with guys now who went through the Mesa Pay for training program, they fly the airplane well but they just are lacking the real world experience. To be honest with you it seems like you come out of that program a trained switch monkey. I just have a hard time paying for time. Its your call I do think it is becoming more accepted in the airline world, even though I cringe a little when I hear someone paid 15G's for time.

 

[fre8ersic]

Aw crap! Would you mind going and getting the $8500 I paid that real estate agent? You see that was alot less than the cost of carrying two mortgages for a year, but as you have pointed out, that was insane! What was I thinking!!??
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(aside) you see, buddy, I'm making a mockery of your analogy which is only fun since you jumped this guys butt with such reckless abandon.
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So once everyone stops paying for training, stops riding right seat in corporate airplanes, stops taking CFI jobs for $7.00/hr, stops going to work for the lowest paid, most exploitative commuter, stops applying at majors that pay less than FedEx and stop with all these destructive concessions when they do get to a major, then we'll have a real profession again.

For Service Academy Grads only, I suppose.

Everything you said is very true. Everybody is trying to get to the top the best way they can while some are trying to support a family and fly some are trying to instruct for a mediocre pay.

 

[fre8ersic]

Yeah but you paid for a service. Those who pay to act as a professional pilot are paying to provide a service. Your realtor did not pay you, did he?

Only in aviation

While I'm prividing a service I'm also getting good experience. $7.00 an hr. to instruct or pay a little over that to get twin time and lots of IMC

?

 

[imacdog]

I got good experience at the different places I worked, but the difference is I also got a paycheck. When I talk about my past experience I don't have to put a sad face on the thread like you do.

 

[fre8ersic]

I got good experience at the different places I worked, but the difference is I also got a paycheck. When I talk about my past experience I don't have to put a sad face on the thread like you do.

Don't lie and say you were happy with your pay as an instructor. Most of my friends are instructors and they hate the pay.

 

[fre8ersic]

If 2 pilots are required both should be qualified and be PAID!

If it's a single pilot op then your dumba$$ is a glorified passenger.

... .

I was an SIC in a metroliner a while back and the metros were single pilot, but the faa qualifies it to make it an optional two pilot crew. I was fortunate to get in before companies stated making people pay. I was paid about 500.00 a month. It was excelent experience but I don't know if I would pay for it. It just seems if they used to hire people off the street people must have screwed their selfs by offering to pay money. I fly with guys now who went through the Mesa Pay for training program, they fly the airplane well but they just are lacking the real world experience. To be honest with you it seems like you come out of that program a trained switch monkey. I just have a hard time paying for time. Its your call I do think it is becoming more accepted in the airline world, even though I cringe a little when I hear someone paid 15G's for time.

Another insult from an insecure pilot. Does it make you feel better?

 

[imacdog]

I certainly haven't lied any time during this thread. The only time I was truly happy with my pay was when I was flying Beavers. But any pay, when acting as a professional, is better than no pay. Because suckers like you continue to offer to pay to work, there will be less opportunities to make money in this business. Think about it, you could be making money doing what you do if you just grew a sack and demanded to be paid for your services. Otherwise, enjoy being a glorified passenger. I'm glad I didn't have to cart any passengers around when I flew freight. But to be honest, I'm just suspecting this is all flame. No one is dumb enough to start a thread about pay-for-work and be surprised with people's reactions. Have a nice day.

 

[Photoflight]

But but but but....im a real estate agent and so I don't have to flight instruct. The guys at DCA promised me an interview and some 1900 time for only 100,000. And I don't even have to start paying it back tell six months after I graduate.

-----heres to hoping you never make it in this business.

As for it becoming more accepted I hope that in the next couple of years the guys who've been flying the line with all the pft'ers and PFJ clowns get on the hiring board and start laughing at these guys when they walk in the room.

 

[ePilot22]

Seat Warmer

Don't lie and say you were happy with your pay as an instructor. Most of my friends are instructors and they hate the pay.

Your friends are getting paid what they are worth!

I'm MORE than happy with what I make as a flight instructor (I just wish it was more consistent)!

Another insult from an insecure pilot.

You're the one buying his job! Seems to me you're insecure.

Everybody is trying to get to the top the best way they can while some are trying to support a family and fly some are trying to instruct for a mediocre pay.

And thanks to you I'll be earning less flying freight than instructing.

You bash on the bad CFIs you know, and yet instead of trying to become a good CFI, you choose to buy a job and steal from the industry.

$7.00 an hr. to instruct or pay a little over that to get twin time and lots of IMC

Your logic is as f ***ed up as you are!

EARN a job - quit buying one!





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[ePilot22]

I'm just suspecting this is all flame. No one is dumb enough to start a thread about pay-for-work and be surprised with people's reactions. Have a nice day.

:beer:

As for it becoming more accepted I hope that in the next couple of years the guys who've been flying the line with all the pft'ers and PFJ clowns get on the hiring board and start laughing at these guys when they walk in the room.

Well Said!








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