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Nov 19, 2002
Did anyone see news of the FAA passing a rule today requiring a SIC Type Rating? It didnt say what the requirements were, or who or when this would be required. Anybody have knowledge?
This was published in the AOPA newsletter:

The FAA announced Thursday that it will require only pilots flying outside the United States and its jurisdictional territories to obtain a second-in-command (SIC) pilot type rating. The FAA accepted AOPA's request that it clarify the proposal for SIC qualifications and training in 14 CFR 61.55 to distinguish between domestic and international flight. The original version would have required even pilots flying exclusively within the United States to obtain the SIC type rating. This action allows U.S. flight crews to meet International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) requirements. Some U.S. flight crews could have been grounded abroad because they did not have the appropriate ratings under ICAO standards. It will become effective September 6.

Not really clear on what it means, but sounds like the FAA will still need to define what an SIC type rating consists of.
Second-in-command Pilot Type Rating Rules Adopted

Pilots serving as second-in-command (SIC) will be required to possess a SIC type rating for operations outside U.S. airspace, under new FAA regulations published today.

The purpose of the rules is to make it relatively simple for FAA type-rating requirements to conform with International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) requirements, allowing U.S. flight crews to fly to international destinations without the threat of being grounded for not holding the appropriate type rating.

The SIC type rating, which does not require additional training, would not be mandatory for operations within U.S airspace.

To be eligible for the rating, a qualified PIC or a type-rated CFI would verify SIC training was given and a completed FAA Form 8710-1 would be presented in person to either a FSDO or a designated examiner along with the applicant’s logbook or training records.

Of the 49 comments received since the rules were proposed last November, about half were in favor and about one-quarter were opposed. Another quarter had specific questions. The rules go into effect on September 6.
The USA is about the only country that doesn't require a type rating for both crew members if they are operating a 2 crew aircraft over 12,500lbs. And believe it or not there are many countries that require you to have a type rating for ANY aircraft flown commercially as PIC regardless of type / weight. So you would need a type to fly a C172 on aerial work!!
Thanks for the post guys. I have never heard this before.
I'm guessing this goes for Part 121 carriers as well?
Yeah but it's just a paperwork thing. No change to the curriculum (sp?) is necessary. Your current SIC type ride/proficiency check counts.

So does this mean that those of us who fly for regional carriers with a few international destinations will be getting new pilot certificates soon?

Josh M.
More Regs: FAA's Publishes Final Rule For Second-In-Command Type Rating

More Rules From The FAA... Aren't You Overjoyed?
It's been a busy day for the Paper-Pushers at 800 Independence Avenue...
though we sure whish someone would give them a day off.

The FAA is amending its pilot certification regulations to establish a second-in-command (SIC) pilot type rating and associated qualifying procedures. This final rule is needed to conform FAA pilot type rating requirements to the International Civil Aviation Organization pilot type rating standards.

The intended effect of this action is to allow U.S. flight crews to continue to operate in international airspace without the threat of being grounded for not holding the appropriate pilot type rating.

The rule becomes effective on September 6, 2005.


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