SF-340 Captains

[Prop2Jet]

A few other FO's told me about it today.

 

[Mike November]

Sounds like time for a union

 

[justgetinby]

Looked at climb to 350.com. It says F.O.'s only and no mention of CA. Further more proof this website is full of B.S. I'm possibly out for good.

 

[CoolSidePillow]

I think the ad was just worded incorrectly which isnt too hard to see. I remember how bad the manuals were written. I believe it is SF340 & BE1900 FOs and BE1900 street captains. I think there arent enough Beech FOs with upgrade time but even that is hard to believe. Captains arent the problem. They have had more than enough captains for quite some time since growth slowed. There is no reason for them to hire Saab captains. Last I remembered there was a few that left that want to come back and would as captains but they need to hire FOs and train them. One bad thing is that they are so fat on captains that they can probably hold off on upgrades to run a few new hire classes through and just work the captains a bit harder like they did when CO and UA deals were signed in 05. Q400 will be all out of house training. Probably in Seattle FS. I dont think people need to start twisting just yet. They will hire street captains but only when they absolutely need them. The new Saabs arent pouring in like they did with CEX so there is no great push for crews. They have enough captains sitting on bottom of lists at some bases to cover. So relax.... go bang your hot girlfriend or someone else's hot girlfriend. Never stress what you hear and only some of what you see.

 

[DoinTime]

You can have all the protections in the world, but if the company is short staffed, you are still going to get junior manned or have street captains hired. period

I don't know of any Union pilot contracts in the US that allow the offering of vacancies in anything but seniority order. I'd be pretty pissed if the company I worked for hired off the street instead of awarding promotions to those within first.

 

[suupah]

I think the add is addressing future needs when they pull 40 captains off the line and get to the end of the qualified fo's list. keep in mind many new hires only have 600 hours and it will be a long time before they upgrade.

 

[xjhawk]

its not the website, or the forum, its the idiots who open their mouths before they think. They are the same ones you should not listen to in the flight deck or crew room! Seriously, I do not beleive anyting in here until its verified by another source. I will list these things......9E getting 900's for delta, NWA parking X number of planes when all their flights are full with a profit being made, an airline hiring street captains is a good thing, and whatever Your Pilot friend posts......and Occams Razor......enough said

 

[Prop2Jet]

XJ and Just Getinby do your research before you both complain about the validity of this thread:

http://www.climbto350.com/aviation-career-fairs.cfm

As I stated earlier it is on Climbto350.com and jobfair.

Statisfied.

 

[vectorvictor]

XJ and Just Getinby do your research before you both complain about the validity of this thread:

http://www.climbto350.com/aviation-career-fairs.cfm

As I stated earlier it is on Climbto350.com and jobfair.

Statisfied.

P2J....Way to document your sources. I never doubted you for an instant.

VV

 

[jtrain609]

I think the ad was just worded incorrectly which isnt too hard to see. I remember how bad the manuals were written. I believe it is SF340 & BE1900 FOs and BE1900 street captains. I think there arent enough Beech FOs with upgrade time but even that is hard to believe. Captains arent the problem. They have had more than enough captains for quite some time since growth slowed. There is no reason for them to hire Saab captains. Last I remembered there was a few that left that want to come back and would as captains but they need to hire FOs and train them. One bad thing is that they are so fat on captains that they can probably hold off on upgrades to run a few new hire classes through and just work the captains a bit harder like they did when CO and UA deals were signed in 05. Q400 will be all out of house training. Probably in Seattle FS. I dont think people need to start twisting just yet. They will hire street captains but only when they absolutely need them. The new Saabs arent pouring in like they did with CEX so there is no great push for crews. They have enough captains sitting on bottom of lists at some bases to cover. So relax.... go bang your hot girlfriend or someone else's hot girlfriend. Never stress what you hear and only some of what you see.

Coolside, there are about 15 Beech FOs who meet the upgrade mins, some have over 1500 hours in the airplane. Do you still work for Colgan?

 

[jtrain609]

So relax.... go bang your hot girlfriend or someone else's hot girlfriend. Never stress what you hear and only some of what you see.

And people were saying 15 minutes before the announced sale that it was all a flightinfo hoax. There is SOME truth to these boards, which P2J showed with the link to the street captain job posting.

 

[ifly34]

So why is it when it is good news everyone says "until I see it, I won't believe it". But when it is negative news, everyone assumes it is true.

 

[Prop2Jet]

That is true ifly34 yet in this case I was told about, then found it on Climbto350 then posted it. So I guess we have to believe it --right?
If it sounds like a duck it is a duck!

 

[ifly34]

I guess it all depends on who told you and how much faith you have in climbto350 ads.

I'm still in the old school "I'll believe it when they're in class" way of thinking.

 

[vtchaz]

Read the ad a little more comprehensively and THINK!

Hey I am not lying. Go on to climbto350.com and c for yourself


Colgan Air - Hiring B-1900 & Saab 340 Captains & First Officers
* Hiring Saab 340 First Officers "ON THE SPOT"

Why do you assume the worst? It is a badly written ad but when you take the information you know about the company's situation and then read the ad, you know that they are probably hiring 1900 CA off the street. There is NO reason to hire SAAB CA off street. They never even have any open pairings there are so many captains. I haven't been able to pick up time in the SAAB in months.

So stop spreading negative BS. Colgan only hires off the street when it is necessary and they're not even close to needing to do that right now.

 

[Prop2Jet]

" So stop spreading negative BS"

O yes sir and where do you get your facts from? I just copied and pasted pal so if you want to call it BS then fine.

 

[vtchaz]

" So stop spreading negative BS"

O yes sir and where do you get your facts from? I just copied and pasted pal so if you want to call it BS then fine.

Exactly and then drew conclusions without READING it carefully and THINKING. Something if you did a little more of you wouldn't be spreading false information (IE making the thread title SF340 CAPTAINS and omitting the B1900 part, which is really what should be tied to the Captain part) and unnecessarily upsetting people.

 

[jtrain609]

Exactly and then drew conclusions without READING it carefully and THINKING. Something if you did a little more of you wouldn't be spreading false information (IE making the thread title SF340 CAPTAINS and omitting the B1900 part, which is really what should be tied to the Captain part) and unnecessarily upsetting people.

Unnecessarily upsetting people?!?!?!?! Myself and 14 other Beech FOs will be FURIOUS if Colgan hires Street Captains again for the Beech while they have us on property.


Why would we stay around when Republic and Skywest are hiring? The Beech FOs at Colgan can be a Bro Captain at Skywest in 6 months with our times.

 

[vectorvictor]

Unnecessarily upsetting people?!?!?!?! Myself and 14 other Beech FOs will be FURIOUS if Colgan hires Street Captains again for the Beech while they have us on property.


Why would we stay around when Republic and Skywest are hiring? The Beech FOs at Colgan can be a Bro Captain at Skywest in 6 months with our times.

Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Is it that big of an issue? You guys will still hold your seniority over the street hires won't you? Maybe you can make a case to the CP to upgrade the current FO's if they're close enough to the mins OR put it in writing that when you do hit the mins, you automatically go through upgrade. Colgan sounds like a small enough airline where they can still work with you. Then again ,I could be wrong. Maybe CAPA needs to step in