seriously why cant i get a call back

[Geronimo4497]

Am I missing something? What "happens" at 1100 hours?

ALL of the majors call to hire you at 485K to start, duh..........

 

[Tram]

Ohh yes, that's right... Silly me..

 

[FN FAL]

Am I missing something? What "happens" at 1100 hours?

Yea! You get pigeon holed as being over qualified and wind up living in trailer flying ag planes or get stuck doing some other abysmal job like flying boxes in a caravan for the rest of your life!

 

[Tram]

Hahaha... Yeh, I wasn't sure, looks like I was missing alot..

 

[coolyokeluke]

Yea! You get pigeon holed as being over qualified and wind up living in trailer flying ag planes or get stuck doing some other abysmal job like flying boxes in a caravan for the rest of your life!

But does it still beat de-boning chickens?

 

[BushwickBill]

OK Mr. 650

SARCASM. Same reason I haven't updated my profile since I joined.

 

[Tram]

SARCASM. Same reason I haven't updated my profile since I joined.

Yeh, but that still doesn't make sense why your bustin his balls over 50 hours, when in 50 hours, he'll have accomplished nothing special, passed no "marketable" milestones, etc?

 

[BushwickBill]

Yeh, but that still doesn't make sense why your bustin his balls over 50 hours, when in 50 hours, he'll have accomplished nothing special, passed no "marketable" milestones, etc?

Ugh, SARCASM. I thought adding 50 hours to my profile was funny because 50 hours is nothing. 50 hours is like saying its 10:03 and 30 seconds when someone asks you the time. Why doesn't he just say he has a thousand hours. Just like you say "50 hours is not a marketable milestone". Neither is 1000 hours but its enough time to be significant. 50 hours is nothing. So why put it down? I'm going to bed.

 

[NoPax]

Ugh, SARCASM. I thought adding 50 hours to my profile was funny because 50 hours is nothing. 50 hours is like saying its 10:03 and 30 seconds when someone asks you the time. Why doesn't he just say he has a thousand hours. Just like you say "50 hours is not a marketable milestone". Neither is 1000 hours but its enough time to be significant. 50 hours is nothing. So why put it down? I'm going to bed.

Good luck with your career. I do respect your logic for saying you'd rather go cargo than regional but:

When you get into one of those big airplanes that eat up a lot of runway, brief your Captain and tell him that the V1 VR V2 is between 100 and 200 Kts, since 50 doesn't mean anything. Or that we'll need between 6000-12000 feet of runway to takeoff/land. Oh, how about, roughing the fuel required on a trip to Hawai'i - attention to detail. Employers of large airplanes like attention to detail.

Give him/her a break. S/he's maybe proud of the last 50 hours. 1000 hours to 1050 takes some pilots 2 weeks, or 2 months. Every update shows progress, that they are flying - recency of experience. Employers like that

My resume, that I have been successful at getting calls back on, has my hours on it rounded up/down to full numbers, a column showing hours in last 6 months, and 90 days on it too.

Now...rant over...I'm going to WORK.

 

[treetopflyer]

Good luck with your career. I do respect your logic for saying you'd rather go cargo than regional but:

When you get into one of those big airplanes that eat up a lot of runway, brief your Captain and tell him that the V1 VR V2 is between 100 and 200 Kts, since 50 doesn't mean anything. Or that we'll need between 6000-12000 feet of runway to takeoff/land. Oh, how about, roughing the fuel required on a trip to Hawai'i - attention to detail. Employers of large airplanes like attention to detail.

Give him/her a break. S/he's maybe proud of the last 50 hours. 1000 hours to 1050 takes some pilots 2 weeks, or 2 months. Every update shows progress, that they are flying - recency of experience. Employers like that

My resume, that I have been successful at getting calls back on, has my hours on it rounded up/down to full numbers, a column showing hours in last 6 months, and 90 days on it too.

Now...rant over...I'm going to WORK.

on some large airplanes you cant see the individual knot indicators, so close enough is close enough.

on most large airplanes we dont care how much runway it takes to land as long as there is the minimum amount available, and you land in the touchdown zone.

as far as roughing the fuel on a trip to hawaii, how bout stn-vhhh whats the burn on that one? oh give or take 135,000 kilos but whats a couple thousand kilos between friends right?

rant over, everyone has milestones, let them have them and remember when you had yours.

 

[PSAChiefPilots]

i know first of all i need patients, and my hours are not much to brag over.

1050 total
120 multi

i have sent resumes out to ASA, PSA and Airwis.
everyone i see with comparable hours is getting the call is there something im missing. Or do i need to be more patient.

other expierineces on top of flight time is 9 years military(non aviation) is that a negative or positive.

any good advice would be appriciated

Sent a resume how? With most companies, now, you must fill out an online app....With us you e-mail a resume to [email protected] and you are automatically sent a Application, Print it, fill it out, and then wait. Now be patient!

If you really want calls, go take a CRJ (or ERJ) course, their are many schools that offer them, they range anywhere in price from 3000.00 to 30,000 and most have deals set up with the regionals to get their graduates interviews.
(With us, most of them have a cover sheet to give their graduates that goes on top of their application and they get noticed as soon as they are received by HR.) We have hired people with much less time, if they have completed such programs...In the Interviews this week, we had people who completed programs at All-Atp's, Delta Connection Academy, Embry-Riddle, and Regional Airline Academy. I have also spoke to the administration at Pan am Academy and working on a similar program from them.

These course's show that you can probably make it through the training course at most airlines and give you a headstart at the commitment it takes to complete the training. Knock on wood, but we have not had anyone from these programs fail out of training yet and we have had quite a few failures...Consider it an Insurance policy for your career.

Good Luck,
PSACPSP

 

[BenderGonzales]

oh brother.... I can't believe you just recommended that to him.

I've lost all faith.

 

[PSAChiefPilots]

oh brother.... I can't believe you just recommended that to him.

I've lost all faith.

I assume that was directed toward my post?

Unfortunately, If training had anything to do with it, These are the only people I would be able to hire. Sorry, Don't shoot the messenger. If every regional wasn't hiring from these same programs, I guess it wouldn't have needed to be said. I just stated how much they cost, I never said spend the 30 Grand...Everyone should be informed on how much they cost and who all offers them, Heck, I would do whatever possible to get myself ahead of everyone else, Sometimes it means spending some money....I know alot of guys who have bought a 73 type to try to get ahead of others and get hired at SW, Yeah, it's a little different because they are a "Major" but if you were on the otherside, things would probably be different.

If you were looking for a job, you probably would have "lost all faith" long ago!

You think the guy wanted honesty, or for someone to tell him to be patient?

Why don't you offer him some of your Wisdom on how to get an interview instead of bashing others.

Good Luck,
PSACPSP

 

[BenderGonzales]

Oh no. After all, you're a chief pilot. So when you come on this website people look to what you have to say as if you have the experience and the wisdom to offer them truly valuable advice.

I am dissapointed to see that (in my opinion) that perception of you is apparently misplaced.

YOU didn't get hired at PSA by paying for some clown to teach you about the Jetstream (which you and I will both agree was significantly more challenging than any RJ). Why should these people waste their money on a CRJ course? PSA is not Southwest. And unless you start requiring a CRJ type-rating for employment, there is no reason for potential newhires to go spend hard-earned money that they probably do not have, to be trained in that airplane.

That is YOUR company's job. If they are not successfully completeting training than you have two choices. Hire more qualified candidates (i/e improve your interviewing) or improve your training department. One of them is falling down on the job -- its not likely to be the candidate.

I'm embarassed for you that you made such a suggestion.

 

[PSAChiefPilots]

Oh no. After all, you're a chief pilot. So when you come on this website people look to what you have to say as if you have the experience and the wisdom to offer them truly valuable advice.

I am dissapointed to see that (in my opinion) that perception of you is apparently misplaced.

YOU didn't get hired at PSA by paying for some clown to teach you about the Jetstream (which you and I will both agree was significantly more challenging than any RJ). Why should these people waste their money on a CRJ course? PSA is not Southwest. And unless you start requiring a CRJ type-rating for employment, there is no reason for potential newhires to go spend hard-earned money that they probably do not have, to be trained in that airplane.

That is YOUR company's job. If they are not successfully completeting training than you have two choices. Hire more qualified candidates (i/e improve your interviewing) or improve your training department. One of them is falling down on the job -- its not likely to be the candidate.

I'm embarassed for you that you made such a suggestion.

I'm not embarassed, I'm honest, I'm on the otherside, I talk to other recruiters, I talk to the flight schools, I talk to our Captains, I ride in the Sim during the Sim evals.

Delta Connection Academy, Remember, it use to be Comair Training academy, they are the ones offering an interview upon completion (I assume at Comair), not me....You still have not given him any of your wisdom on how to get hired? And depending on when you got hired at Comair, Or when I got hired here, I know people who had to pay someone to train them to fly the a/c they where in. Remember FSI? Unfortunately, it was the way everything worked in the early 90's. Are you bitter you had to pay, or bitter that you didn't pay and wasn't hired? Or where you in the group that was hired immediately after it ended and everyone was hiring. Maybe you forgot that that's the way things were done then, I am not telling him that it's the only way to get hired, I offered a suggestion why people less qualified may be getting hired and a few solutions, Again, what have you offered?

I never stated that we were SW, I simply stated that people paid for the type to get ahead, or possibly called sooner (when it wasn't required). I know tons of guys here who bought their type ten years ago and still haven't been hired, Was it worth it? Are they bitter? Questions they must answer, but at the time they felt it was a good idea.

Again, Tell the guy how to get hired at Comair (or anywhere else for that matter), and save him the money.

PSACPSP