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seriously why cant i get a call back

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OI812 said:
i know first of all i need patients, and my hours are not much to brag over.

1050 total
120 multi

i have sent resumes out to ASA, PSA and Airwis.
everyone i see with comparable hours is getting the call is there something im missing. Or do i need to be more patient.

other expierineces on top of flight time is 9 years military(non aviation) is that a negative or positive.

any good advice would be appriciated

1050 total. If 50 hours is a big deal to you maybe you should reconsider how ready you are to fly an airplane with 70 people in the back.

I have about the same amount of time as you 100 of that time multi jet. I wouldn't expect to get hired by a regional. Sure they are hiring and buying new planes. Mostly the regionals are building a pool of pilots so they can meet the needs of the airline whenever they need to. They are not trying to meet your needs.

A CFI at a school I worked for was "hired" after an interview but then he had to wait about 6 months to get into groundschool. He opened his mouth at work about the opportunity and lost out on a lot of PIC instructing time.

Maybe you went to the same "academy" I did and feel that your Gods gift to avation. Maybe your cool. I dont know. Why not strive for the 135 mins and work for a cargo op. Personally I'm not going to fly for a regional considering it would be career suicide.
 
OI812 said:
i know first of all i need patients, and my hours are not much to brag over.

1050 total
120 multi

i have sent resumes out to ASA, PSA and Airwis.
everyone i see with comparable hours is getting the call is there something im missing. Or do i need to be more patient.

other expierineces on top of flight time is 9 years military(non aviation) is that a negative or positive.

any good advice would be appriciated

just keep being PERSISTENT! Anyone can fax a resume but keep updating it and you will get there.

Send in a resume to Republic Airways Holdings (Chautauqua, Shuttle, Republic Airline) and xjet network out besides those 3
 
Gobi Gred said:
Geez, I remember when I couldn't get Great Lakes (or any other airline) to call me with 1400tt and 300 multi. Long time ago though.
You think that's bad? Nahh, I got ya beat. Look way, waay back to the early 90's... nobody was hiring. I had 4500tt, 2500 multi (C310 freight dog)... and zero responses to my dozens of resumes sent out. When I finally made it to the "big time", nope, no shiny RJ for me; just a Beech 1900. The Brasilias, SF-340s and ATRs were senior pilot heavy metal... no RJs in the fleet yet, the CRJ had just entered production. Man, how things change...

Seriously, when you guys with 1000tt and a few dozen multi hours start whining about not getting called up for that coveted RJ seat, I just have to laugh... you really don't have a clue as to how much worse it could be or has been. Jeez, now I'm starting to sound like a crusty old fart... where's my Metamucil?
 
I can remember a time when we had guys with ATP's and twin turbine time throwing bags on our ramp hoping for a C-172 spot. (Yeah, it led to a bigger single and then a twin) Immediately after 9/11 we got resumes from 767 pilots looking for something, ANYTHING to fly following their furlough. As someone else suggested, HR departments are probably looking toward the furloughed 121 guys right now, so the 135 route is probably your best option if you're not getting calls from the 121 outfits. Of course, you're not being TOO persistant, are ya? If you're faxing stuff daily and/or making phone calls to the point of being ANNOYING, nobody's gonna hire you, either.
 
look for those with good advice thanks i know i have a lot of time to build and working hard at it.

but please those who have nothing better to do than proof read stop wastring this valuable resource and to to some chat room and more importantly stop wasting my time.

agian i do appriciate all the good comments, and i am exploring all possible options i dont expect to jump into a jet im all for paying your dues. It'sjust that i dont see much consistancy in how people hire and was trying to find some.
thanks all who know how to use and why this forum is here
 
flyerswife said:
How long ago did you get that kind of response?

My husband sent out about the same amount and has had three responses, only two interviews at small regional airlines, and NO offers. 3100TT, 500Multi, ATP. 44 years old, non-US citizen with permanent visa.


There are unwritten, unpublished rules. A lot of people are not hiring permanent residents because they have to go through the TSA process. they don't publish it, because it would be illegal for them to do so; but it's an unwritten rule..
 
OI812 said:
look for those with good advice thanks i know i have a lot of time to build and working hard at it.

but please those who have nothing better to do than proof read stop wastring this valuable resource and to to some chat room and more importantly stop wasting my time.

agian i do appriciate all the good comments, and i am exploring all possible options i dont expect to jump into a jet im all for paying your dues. It'sjust that i dont see much consistancy in how people hire and was trying to find some.
thanks all who know how to use and why this forum is here

Wasting this valuable resource????

Get a freakin' life, man. Are you this melodramatic in interviews? I think I've figured your problem out...

On the other hand, his relentless lecturing about how to use this board suggests that he might be a troll.
 
BushwickBill said:
1050 total. If 50 hours is a big deal to you maybe you should reconsider how ready you are to fly an airplane with 70 people in the back.

Am I missing something? What "happens" at 1100 hours?
 
Ohh yes, that's right... Silly me.. :)
 
Tram said:
Am I missing something? What "happens" at 1100 hours?
Yea! You get pigeon holed as being over qualified and wind up living in trailer flying ag planes or get stuck doing some other abysmal job like flying boxes in a caravan for the rest of your life! :D
 
Hahaha... :) Yeh, I wasn't sure, looks like I was missing alot.. :)
 
FN FAL said:
Yea! You get pigeon holed as being over qualified and wind up living in trailer flying ag planes or get stuck doing some other abysmal job like flying boxes in a caravan for the rest of your life! :D

But does it still beat de-boning chickens?
 
BushwickBill said:
SARCASM. Same reason I haven't updated my profile since I joined.

Yeh, but that still doesn't make sense why your bustin his balls over 50 hours, when in 50 hours, he'll have accomplished nothing special, passed no "marketable" milestones, etc?
 
Tram said:
Yeh, but that still doesn't make sense why your bustin his balls over 50 hours, when in 50 hours, he'll have accomplished nothing special, passed no "marketable" milestones, etc?

Ugh, SARCASM. I thought adding 50 hours to my profile was funny because 50 hours is nothing. 50 hours is like saying its 10:03 and 30 seconds when someone asks you the time. Why doesn't he just say he has a thousand hours. Just like you say "50 hours is not a marketable milestone". Neither is 1000 hours but its enough time to be significant. 50 hours is nothing. So why put it down? I'm going to bed.
 
BushwickBill said:
Ugh, SARCASM. I thought adding 50 hours to my profile was funny because 50 hours is nothing. 50 hours is like saying its 10:03 and 30 seconds when someone asks you the time. Why doesn't he just say he has a thousand hours. Just like you say "50 hours is not a marketable milestone". Neither is 1000 hours but its enough time to be significant. 50 hours is nothing. So why put it down? I'm going to bed.

Good luck with your career. I do respect your logic for saying you'd rather go cargo than regional but:

When you get into one of those big airplanes that eat up a lot of runway, brief your Captain and tell him that the V1 VR V2 is between 100 and 200 Kts, since 50 doesn't mean anything. Or that we'll need between 6000-12000 feet of runway to takeoff/land. Oh, how about, roughing the fuel required on a trip to Hawai'i - attention to detail. Employers of large airplanes like attention to detail.

Give him/her a break. S/he's maybe proud of the last 50 hours. 1000 hours to 1050 takes some pilots 2 weeks, or 2 months. Every update shows progress, that they are flying - recency of experience. Employers like that

My resume, that I have been successful at getting calls back on, has my hours on it rounded up/down to full numbers, a column showing hours in last 6 months, and 90 days on it too.

Now...rant over...I'm going to WORK.
 
NoPax said:
Good luck with your career. I do respect your logic for saying you'd rather go cargo than regional but:

When you get into one of those big airplanes that eat up a lot of runway, brief your Captain and tell him that the V1 VR V2 is between 100 and 200 Kts, since 50 doesn't mean anything. Or that we'll need between 6000-12000 feet of runway to takeoff/land. Oh, how about, roughing the fuel required on a trip to Hawai'i - attention to detail. Employers of large airplanes like attention to detail.

Give him/her a break. S/he's maybe proud of the last 50 hours. 1000 hours to 1050 takes some pilots 2 weeks, or 2 months. Every update shows progress, that they are flying - recency of experience. Employers like that

My resume, that I have been successful at getting calls back on, has my hours on it rounded up/down to full numbers, a column showing hours in last 6 months, and 90 days on it too.

Now...rant over...I'm going to WORK.


on some large airplanes you cant see the individual knot indicators, so close enough is close enough.

on most large airplanes we dont care how much runway it takes to land as long as there is the minimum amount available, and you land in the touchdown zone.

as far as roughing the fuel on a trip to hawaii, how bout stn-vhhh whats the burn on that one? oh give or take 135,000 kilos but whats a couple thousand kilos between friends right?

rant over, everyone has milestones, let them have them and remember when you had yours.
 
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