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Segrave- the worst charter to work for

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If life was so bad there - why didn't you catch the fractional wave? You could be flying a Falcon 2000 on a 7-on-7-off schedule by now....

I don't understand why people stay in these jobs over long periods of time - yeah, times are tough, but if you have good experience and a good personality you should be able to find other work... Right? At least you probably got a type and some jet time - that would be helpful...

Good luck!
 
Changes

Just wondering if anyone has the latest on this operation. Have there been any changes for the better?
 
not last I heard, best friend did it for 3 months and had to quit, owner promised him good changes and came up empty handed, between the bounced paychecks and mx problems he had enough.......be safe people, places like this get people killed, I know families need to be fed but there are other options, quit while you can.
 
TaxiDriver said:
I am not trying to start a bickering match here, however, please don't tell me that just because of what you stated above makes Seagrave suck.

Pay $220.00 per day for a Citation Capt.....not bad for North Carolina. Rates for that sized jet in California are around $300.00 per day......I think our cost of living is quite higher!

Per diem $42.00 a day....close to most 135 operator per diem rates.

Hotel reservations....so what if they aren't made the night before! Unless you are going to the Super Bowl, Colorado Ski Season...etc. If you don't want to spend much time locating a reasonable hotel, make a quick phone call to the FBO and have them arrange.

Customs??? The last time I looked, the PIC is responsible for coordinating customs. Of course, many times dispatch sets everything up....or has Universal, etc...make those calls. However, the PIC should always double check to make sure that the person who was making the calls, in fact...made those calls!

Sounds like you might be new to corporate aviation. We are not like the military or the airlines where everything is done for you! We have to think outside the box, and in many situations, go above and beyond what is required to be a pilot. This is especially true in small flight departments where staffing does not allow everything to be put on a silver platter and handed to the guy that wears 4 stripes.

Maybe your employer does suck and maybe somewhere you have valid points why no one should work there. But just because you don't like the wages, making hotel reservations and doing your duties as PIC of a flight is not a valid reason why Seagrave should be avoided by a prospective employee.



Oh that's a good one...
 
TaxiDriver said:
Pay $220.00 per day for a Citation Capt.....not bad for North Carolina. Rates for that sized jet in California are around $300.00 per day.
Wow, I must be doing good or you guys need to move out to the midwest.

I make more then that per day as a First Officer on a Citation. Captain makes twice as much as I do.
 
$220 a day is a good rate for the FO, not Captain. Seems like $300 would be the bottom. I was making $325 for FO in a mid-size last time I did any contract work.

Hdawg, noticed the MC-130H in the ratings... Hurlbert?
 
California citation captains are making $500 a day.

I don't know ANYONE paying only $300 a day.

TaxiDriver is well connected though...must be a disconnect somewhere.
 
I, for one, would never work for a company lame enough to hire me.

BTW, are they hiring now?

C
 
flyrunner80 said:
User997, is your company looking for F/O's
Nope, they probably won't be hiring until the end of this year - when they're looking to bring in a Falcon or possibly a Challenger then.
 
As someone here in NC who has worked with Segrave I have to say the negative comments here are on par. I know the owner, Jim, and let me tell you it should be spelled CROOK. They have had guys in the past flamming out on the runway after landing because they didn't wan't to spend the extra money on fuel in Southern Fla. The dropped the pax and were then repoing to 1 of the Miami area airports to fill up on cheaper fuel. Well, according to the FO they took off for the repo with the Low Fuel lights on. This was on a Citation.

They had an owner pull one airplane from them while in the middle of a trip. Why you ask? The owner found out that Jim Segrave was pulling the Hobbs breaker and flying the Citation on his own time and the owners expense. He was hiding the extra fuel in the true charter trips.

They have no concern for running you over duty times. If you can think of a way to bust times it has been asked by them at Segrave.

I know or have known at leat 10 guys in the last 5 years who have flown for them and none work there now. They all quit. Of course they were all good professional guys that saw through the BS and got out of Dodge. This place is not good. Not safe and not the place to throw down anchor for your career.

This was the nice story about this place. If you want a better understanding of Segrave then send me a message.
 

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