Scott Crossfield's C210 missing

[A Squared]

Can't believe Yeager would say that. What a jerk.

I can easily beleive that he said that. Yeah, he's a jerk.

 

[onthebeach]

Yeager wasn't the first.

George Welch (another civilian test pilot) was the first man to break the sound barrier.

Judge the evidence for yourself:

http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch2.html

At the end of the article, the author gives an address you can write to give George Welch his due. I would ask that everyone do so. Maybe an unjustice that's been covered over for almost sixty years can be corrected.

 

[onthebeach]

Yeager wasn't the first

George Welch (another civilian test pilot) was the first man to break the sound barrier.

Judge the evidence for yourself:

http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch2.html

At the end of the article, the author gives an address you can write to give George Welch his due. I would ask that everyone do so. Maybe an unjustice that's been covered over for almost sixty years can be corrected.

 

[mcjohn]

Any FI members ever broken the sound barrier?

 

[AngelKing]

Any FI members ever broken the sound barrier?

I'm sure avbug will butt-in and tell his tales of breaking the sound barrier.

 

[81Horse]

I'm sure avbug will butt-in and tell his tales of breaking the sound barrier.

A lot of us wish he would. He hasn't been here in quite some time.

 

[AngelKing]

A lot of us wish he would. He hasn't been here in quite some time.

enjoy the peace and quiet......while it last

 

[81Horse]

Peace and quiet? Here?

 

[A Squared]

Any FI members ever broken the sound barrier?

I'm sure that all the fighter pilot and ex-fighter pilot mambers have done that.

 

[Lilah]

Crossfield was a true gentleman, here are two quotes from an article. There's a difference between what he says and that other pilot of note.

"We keep talking about test pilots, but there is no such thing as a 'test pilot,"' Crossfield said in a 1988 interview with Aviation Week & Space Technology. "They are all just people who incidentally do flight tests. ... We should divest ourselves of this idea of special people (being) heroes, if you please, because really they do not exist."

"I am an aeronautical engineer, an aerodynamicist and a designer," he told Aviation Week & Space Technology. "My flying was only primarily because I felt that it was essential to designing and building better airplanes for pilots to fly."

Compared with....

Yeager, reached at his home in California, said he was "sure sorry to hear" about Crossfield's death, but he wondered whether the pilot's penchant for taking risks might have been his undoing. During their days as test pilots, he said Crossfield "being a civilian, had a lot more freedom than we did, as military guys. Sometimes he exceeded his capability and got in trouble."
Asked for an example, the 83-year-old Yeager said: "Flying in weather that he should have never been in."

Which guy would you more care to emulate?

Fly Safe!

Lilah

 

[mcjohn]

I'm sure that all the fighter pilot and ex-fighter pilot members have done that.

I know. That's why I want to hear from them.

I'm curious how many have done that. I wonder if it's about the same as the number of astronauts? Anyone Anyone

 

[FlyingFisherman]

I know. That's why I want to hear from them.

I'm curious how many have done that. I wonder if it's about the same as the number of astronauts? Anyone Anyone

You're kidding, right?

Sound barrier isn't that big of a deal.

Think of how many people rode on Concorde. That's Mach 2+

How many THOUSANDS of fighter pilots throughout just this country since the dawn of the jet age have gone through Mach 1.

Compare that to the few hundred Astronaut pins given out.

 

[mcjohn]

O.K. Mach 2+ then. Passengers excluded. Only PICs. Would that be closer to the number of Astronauts?

 

[A Squared]

I know. That's why I want to hear from them.

I'm curious how many have done that. I wonder if it's about the same as the number of astronauts? Anyone Anyone

I don't think you're thinking about this, bud. *most* (if not all) fighters since the F-100 (early 1950's) have been able to break the sound barrier in level flight. Many earlier ones were capable of doing it in a dive. I would guess that *every* pilot who was an operational fighter pilot in the last 4 to 5 decades has broken the sound barrier, numerous times. That would be a whole bunch. tens of thousands, I would imagine.

 

[mcjohn]

I don't think you're thinking about this, bud. *most* (if not all) fighters since the F-100 (early 1950's) have been able to break the sound barrier in level flight. Many earlier ones were capable of doing it in a dive. I would guess that *every* pilot who was an operational fighter pilot in the last 4 to 5 decades has broken the sound barrier, numerous times. That would be a whole bunch. tens of thousands, I would imagine.

I'm just trying to compare Scott feats to the modern day!!! How many folks are going mach 2+ now a days? I know my first question was dumb. I was thinking about the Chuck controversy and forgot Scott's record was mach 2.