Scenario Question - flameout over water

[satpak77]

I don't think he said that he had done this but was looking for contructive information on how to handle the emergency if it happened. How he got in to the fix to begin with is moot.

Indeed correct. I would never put myself in that situation, but when "perfect planning" turns to crap (nearest strip gets closed, etc) I was looking for what the audience would do.

Me, I would probably ditch under power near some boats or ocean liners and ideally have already made direct contact via HF with Coast Guard units and also have relayed my ditch-location to ATC and overhead traffic on 121.5/ATC freq.

 

[Spooky 2]

Indeed correct. I would never put myself in that situation, but when "perfect planning" turns to crap (nearest strip gets closed, etc) I was looking for what the audience would do.

Me, I would probably ditch under power near some boats or ocean liners and ideally have already made direct contact via HF with Coast Guard units and also have relayed my ditch-location to ATC and overhead traffic on 121.5/ATC freq.

So what frequency do you think the CG guards these days? BTW, the military ships do not guard 121.5 and most merchant ships only guard their radios so many hours a day thanks to the latest automation.

 

[Freight Dog]

I'd go in the back, throw the boss, his friends and the clubs out the door and buy myself some time...

Y'know.. less weight = higher altitude = less fuel burn = fighting chance.

Maybe that's why I can't find a corporate pilot job...

 

[satpak77]

So what frequency do you think the CG guards these days? BTW, the military ships do not guard 121.5 and most merchant ships only guard their radios so many hours a day thanks to the latest automation.

8983 and 5696 have historically had lots of traffic. I know that is an "internal" freq and not something designed as a Guard or Initial Contact freq, such as 8291 or 12290 KHZ was.

11175 also but that is another "internal" military US Global HF (typically C-5, C-17 traffic, amongst others)

156.800 VHF-FM is Marine Ch.16 which almost all boats are up on

 

[Spooky 2]

8983 and 5696 have historically had lots of traffic. I know that is an "internal" freq and not something designed as a Guard or Initial Contact freq, such as 8291 or 12290 KHZ was.

11175 also but that is another "internal" military US Global HF (typically C-5, C-17 traffic, amongst others)

156.800 VHF-FM is Marine Ch.16 which almost all boats are up on

You didn't score on that answer. Sorry. 4125 is the traditional USCG HF emergency frequency. Google it and you will learn more than you ever wanted. Obviously in todays world other aircraft, SATCOM and last but not least if you really think there is even a remote possibility of ditching, tell whom ever your talking to, ATC, etc. to notify AMVER of your distress as that maybe your only chance of survival once in the water.

 

[MaxTorque]

In my 20+ CG career, we monitored 2182... Not sure where 4125 comes from. But there may have been some recent changes to the frequency plan. 5696 was typically used to maintain our radio guard. When that got clobbered we would shift to something in the 89 range - could have been 8983.

MT

 

[Spooky 2]

In my 20+ CG career, we monitored 2182... Not sure where 4125 comes from. But there may have been some recent changes to the frequency plan. 5696 was typically used to maintain our radio guard. When that got clobbered we would shift to something in the 89 range - could have been 8983.

MT

I should have included 2182 as well,
my error. 4125 is listed an initial contact
long range distress freq. I do not believe is
uses the selcal type of watch that 2182 does. Thanks for the additional info.