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It's been a long time, late 80's I think. There was a bad storm that came across the atlanta airport and it shut down the entire system and caused delays nationwide. Maybe some of you remember this story.
There was an artical in flying magazine about this storm, and the flight I was on.
It was a valuejet 727 if memory serves. The flight was from ATL to MIA. After a very long time in line for departure. The captain came over the intercom and said that ATC was asking if someone would like to go up and take a look, or something to that effect.
I remember looking the flight crew over, as I always do, and try to speak as I board. I remember them both to be young guys.
We just happened to be parked at an intersection, I guess, so they worked their way out onto the runway and to the end for departure. The takeoff was quit scary. It was raining so hard I couldn't see the edge of the runway. By the time we reached about 500 feet, all hell broke loose. For about fifteen minutes, I thought that airplane was going to come apart.
There was not another word from the flight crew until we got to MIA. Then to top it all off, that was the hardest landing I've ever experenced. Something had to have broken after that one. Everybody, including myself screamed when it hit. I had a backache for a week. There were some very upset people leaving that plane. I felt so bad for the crew after such a good job dealing with the weather.
Most of the time the crew would stand at the cockpit door and thank everyone for flying with us, but not this time. They stayed in the cockpit with the door closed. Which was probably a good thing, but I wanted to shake their hand and hug their neck for a job well done.
I hope somebody else remembers this story in flying magazine.
There was an artical in flying magazine about this storm, and the flight I was on.
It was a valuejet 727 if memory serves. The flight was from ATL to MIA. After a very long time in line for departure. The captain came over the intercom and said that ATC was asking if someone would like to go up and take a look, or something to that effect.
I remember looking the flight crew over, as I always do, and try to speak as I board. I remember them both to be young guys.
We just happened to be parked at an intersection, I guess, so they worked their way out onto the runway and to the end for departure. The takeoff was quit scary. It was raining so hard I couldn't see the edge of the runway. By the time we reached about 500 feet, all hell broke loose. For about fifteen minutes, I thought that airplane was going to come apart.
There was not another word from the flight crew until we got to MIA. Then to top it all off, that was the hardest landing I've ever experenced. Something had to have broken after that one. Everybody, including myself screamed when it hit. I had a backache for a week. There were some very upset people leaving that plane. I felt so bad for the crew after such a good job dealing with the weather.
Most of the time the crew would stand at the cockpit door and thank everyone for flying with us, but not this time. They stayed in the cockpit with the door closed. Which was probably a good thing, but I wanted to shake their hand and hug their neck for a job well done.
I hope somebody else remembers this story in flying magazine.
C
Chas
Let me correct my post
Airline pilots are perfect and never have a bad day or make a mistake . Feel better now ?
You know any body can tell when the mains contact the ground on the runway then see where the plane is in relation to a terminal .Private pilot , retiree or pro pilot ! . Give me a break ! Chas
Airline pilots are perfect and never have a bad day or make a mistake . Feel better now ?
You know any body can tell when the mains contact the ground on the runway then see where the plane is in relation to a terminal .Private pilot , retiree or pro pilot ! . Give me a break ! Chas
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Re: Yell at me!
Several years ago, I got onto a flight to jumpseat home...and it was full, so I was up in the cockpit. Another pilot(from that airline) wanted to jumpseat as well. He showed up while the Captain was up in the terminal doing something, and the FO was a woman. I said I'd take the "bad jumpseat"...ya know, the one behind the captain on the 737...and we waited in the galley area. When the Captain came down the jetway(also a woman)...he looked at her, looked at the FO, and said.."An all female crew? HELL NO." and walked away. The Captain asked me, "Are you sure you want to fly with an all female crew?" My response...."Why, are you trying to tell me you two can't figure out how to fly this thing?" We both got a good laugh...it turned out to be a perfect flight(under not so perfect weather conditions)...and she is now a good friend of mine.
Several years ago, I got onto a flight to jumpseat home...and it was full, so I was up in the cockpit. Another pilot(from that airline) wanted to jumpseat as well. He showed up while the Captain was up in the terminal doing something, and the FO was a woman. I said I'd take the "bad jumpseat"...ya know, the one behind the captain on the 737...and we waited in the galley area. When the Captain came down the jetway(also a woman)...he looked at her, looked at the FO, and said.."An all female crew? HELL NO." and walked away. The Captain asked me, "Are you sure you want to fly with an all female crew?" My response...."Why, are you trying to tell me you two can't figure out how to fly this thing?" We both got a good laugh...it turned out to be a perfect flight(under not so perfect weather conditions)...and she is now a good friend of mine.
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saabcaptain said:
i know your joking... but that said too many pilots in the Saab like to make "that cool loud noise" ... personally ground idle and slight braking makes A on 31C every time if you land on speed and in the touchdown zone.
That's why I hardly ever use reverse. Maybe 25% of the time, if that.
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Up Front vs. In Back
How it looks up front can be quite a bit different than how it looks in back.
I am a first officer on the Beech 1900. There is no flight attendant, so I get plenty of face time with the passengers. Sometimes their descriptions of what they think is happening are, well, interesting.
Last summer, we were on a visual approach to Milwaukee. The favored runway at Milwaukee is 25L, and we were being sequenced for the visual to that runway.
It was a hot, humid, unstable summer day. There were air-mass cells everywhere, some popping up quickly and others dissipating just as quickly. Not big ones, Level 2s and 3s, some dumping rain. ATIS was reporting "wind shear advisories in effect", but nobody had had to go around. As a precaution, my captain and I briefed the wind-shear recovery procedure. We were both alert to the weather, but not so concerned as to leave the approach sequence. Nobody else was leaving, either.
We were number two in the landing sequence, when a cell started dumping rain over the far end of 25L and the the airport's TDWR reported wind shear in the vicinity of that runway. Nobody had been taking off or landing at that moment.
Approach control redirected the approaches to Runway 31. Runway 31 is almost never used for two reasons: it lacks an instrument approach, and it is inconveniently located on the airport.
An America West Airbus landed on 31 ahead of us, and cleared. Just as we crossed the runway threshold, a heavy rain shaft opened up on us. I was the pilot not flying, so I was calling speeds. In that moment, we lost more than 15 knots. I called the speed loss.
The captain called the missed approach and we executed it. After flying the profile, getting the airplane cleaned up and talking with tower and departure, I briefed the passengers that we had gone around due to weather near the runway, and that once that weather cleared, we would return and land.
Both the cells over 25L and 31 cleared. The approaches turned back to 25L, and we got back into the conga line. We landed uneventfully on the "regular" runway, taxied in, and shut down.
I opened the cockpit door to deplane the passengers. Then I was met with these frightened, and heated questions: "Why were you trying to land where there was no runway?" (There is grass on both sides of 31, and even our regular passengers were obviously unfamiliar with the sight picture).
None of my explanations that we had been over a different runway, and none of my reassurances that they had been safe the entire time, carried the slightest weight with them. Our very upset passengers deplaned believing that neither my captain nor I had any idea what we were doing.
How it looks up front can be quite a bit different than how it looks in back.
I am a first officer on the Beech 1900. There is no flight attendant, so I get plenty of face time with the passengers. Sometimes their descriptions of what they think is happening are, well, interesting.
Last summer, we were on a visual approach to Milwaukee. The favored runway at Milwaukee is 25L, and we were being sequenced for the visual to that runway.
It was a hot, humid, unstable summer day. There were air-mass cells everywhere, some popping up quickly and others dissipating just as quickly. Not big ones, Level 2s and 3s, some dumping rain. ATIS was reporting "wind shear advisories in effect", but nobody had had to go around. As a precaution, my captain and I briefed the wind-shear recovery procedure. We were both alert to the weather, but not so concerned as to leave the approach sequence. Nobody else was leaving, either.
We were number two in the landing sequence, when a cell started dumping rain over the far end of 25L and the the airport's TDWR reported wind shear in the vicinity of that runway. Nobody had been taking off or landing at that moment.
Approach control redirected the approaches to Runway 31. Runway 31 is almost never used for two reasons: it lacks an instrument approach, and it is inconveniently located on the airport.
An America West Airbus landed on 31 ahead of us, and cleared. Just as we crossed the runway threshold, a heavy rain shaft opened up on us. I was the pilot not flying, so I was calling speeds. In that moment, we lost more than 15 knots. I called the speed loss.
The captain called the missed approach and we executed it. After flying the profile, getting the airplane cleaned up and talking with tower and departure, I briefed the passengers that we had gone around due to weather near the runway, and that once that weather cleared, we would return and land.
Both the cells over 25L and 31 cleared. The approaches turned back to 25L, and we got back into the conga line. We landed uneventfully on the "regular" runway, taxied in, and shut down.
I opened the cockpit door to deplane the passengers. Then I was met with these frightened, and heated questions: "Why were you trying to land where there was no runway?" (There is grass on both sides of 31, and even our regular passengers were obviously unfamiliar with the sight picture).
None of my explanations that we had been over a different runway, and none of my reassurances that they had been safe the entire time, carried the slightest weight with them. Our very upset passengers deplaned believing that neither my captain nor I had any idea what we were doing.
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Flight crews get no respect
And to add insult to injury the TSA geeks probably thought you were drunk too.
You know what? For some people, riding around in the back of a turboprop is the closest they will ever come to having an honest to goodness adventure in their boring little lives.
You should take some satisfaction in the fact that you allowed someone to vicariously experience a phenomenon known as "Decision Making"--and all with no risk to thier pretty little noses.
Well done.
And to add insult to injury the TSA geeks probably thought you were drunk too.
You know what? For some people, riding around in the back of a turboprop is the closest they will ever come to having an honest to goodness adventure in their boring little lives.
You should take some satisfaction in the fact that you allowed someone to vicariously experience a phenomenon known as "Decision Making"--and all with no risk to thier pretty little noses.
Well done.
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