SATSair

[FlyingSkip]

If your numbers match up with what you have on here---expect a call within a couple days for a phone interview and then they'll decide if they want you in for a face-to-face. Feel free to visit the website and call the 800 # if you don't hear within a week or so---they move pretty fast if you're what they're looking for, and drag their feet if they don't think you'll fit well...

That's purely my "experience" and overview not anything spelled out as company policy or anything to hang your hat on.

 

[deadstick]

I don't get it. They just posted a new announcement on Climbto350 and the time is back up to 2700TT. brett said 1500TT. Ok. That works.

So WTF is up with the 2700? I would think/hope they would have their act together not to just cut/paste ads. It's attention to detail, and from here, it's like a typo on a resume. I would ask what else is missing or being overlooked.

Just a look from the outside.

G-force need not reply.

 

[brett]

It is 1500. SATS has outsourced hiring in part to an outside firm. They haven't been real impressed from what I've heard, but are in till the contract's up. That's why I've been recommending people send resumes straight to the CP instead of using the web site.

- Brett

I don't get it. They just posted a new announcement on Climbto350 and the time is back up to 2700TT. brett said 1500TT. Ok. That works.

So WTF is up with the 2700? I would think/hope they would have their act together not to just cut/paste ads. It's attention to detail, and from here, it's like a typo on a resume. I would ask what else is missing or being overlooked.

Just a look from the outside.

G-force need not reply.

 

[deadstick]

outsourced hiring

Oh, boy. Do we need to get Lou Dobbs involved? Well, that explains it. Thanks, brett.

 

[BlackPilot628]

This SATAir seems to be a super idea!! I think I would have flown there myself when I left Corpex, because they're pretty much local to me. I live in the CLT area (4 years) now and I'm from the ILM area originally. My FAA buddies in ILM have nothing but good things to say about the Aerocab guys.
Seem to be a kick a$s deal!

 

[Fblowjets]

Yeah those times seem to be a real high to fly a cirrus around.

 

[G-force]

Advancement

This SATAir seems to be a super idea!! I think I would have flown there myself when I left Corpex, because they're pretty much local to me. I live in the CLT area (4 years) now and I'm from the ILM area originally. My FAA buddies in ILM have nothing but good things to say about the Aerocab guys.
Seem to be a kick a$s deal!

This may all well and good but,there still is NO WAY for a pilot to ADVANCE UP to larger,more sophisticated aircraft since SR-22's are the only type they have and a Cirrus Jet is a good TEN YEARS away!!

If pilots are content to fly SE-piston-pounders,then go for it!!!!!

 

[BlackPilot628]

Flying some big may not be for everyone. If you can fly 4 to 5 days a week and sleep in your own bed; that may work for some people. A lot of pilot value their home life more than other. Some people don't want to hasle of flying for an airline. Who is to say?

I have a friend that use to work for Montian Air Cargo. He lived in ILM and flew to GSO around 8:00pm and was home the next morning by 7:00am. He was gone less than 12 hours a day and enjoyed spending time with his kids.
He was only making 45-50 grand flying his C208, but it was worth it to him.

That's all I'm saying.

 

[brett]

All planes take you to the same sky. I like them all. If someone paid me a livable wage to fly an Aeronca Champ, I'd take the job in a heart beat. If I could fly a 747 and not be away from home too much, I'm sure I'd like that too.

Flying some big may not be for everyone. If you can fly 4 to 5 days a week and sleep in your own bed; that may work for some people. A lot of pilot value their home life more than other. Some people don't want to hasle of flying for an airline. Who is to say?

I have a friend that use to work for Montian Air Cargo. He lived in ILM and flew to GSO around 8:00pm and was home the next morning by 7:00am. He was gone less than 12 hours a day and enjoyed spending time with his kids.
He was only making 45-50 grand flying his C208, but it was worth it to him.

That's all I'm saying.

 

[Flybet3]

All planes take you to the same sky. I like them all. If someone paid me a livable wage to fly an Aeronca Champ, I'd take the job in a heart beat. If I could fly a 747 and not be away from home too much, I'm sure I'd like that too.

I tell you what my friend. The only thing that kept me from taking the job with Sats air when they called me, was that I don't want to move from TX. But I tell you what, the moment these guys open a base here. I might just join the skies in the cirrus

 

[Huggyu2]

I didn't see any pay/benefits on the company website. Can you answer:
- pay scale
- retirement
- stock options
- medical/dental
- schedule: # of days working vs. off, etc..
- any else that is pertinent?

 

[Flywrite]

I didn't see any pay/benefits on the company website. Can you answer:
- pay scale
- retirement
- stock options
- medical/dental
- schedule: # of days working vs. off, etc..
- any else that is pertinent?

-pay scale-not 100% sure this is right, but I think it's $27k to start, $31k after 6 months, and around $35k 2nd year.

-retirement-nothing yet, though I've heard vague rumors of a future 401k.

-stock options-nope.

-medical/dental-yes

-schedule-the schedule has been mostly 5 on/2 off, but the goal is 4/3. As more pilots come online the schedule is slowly moving in this direction. Your days off are 'golden' and are not touched by the company and you WILL get home for your days off, not spend them in a hotel somewhere. There are a couple of pilots who occasionally want fly on their days off if they are needed, but they are generally the only ones who are even asked. If the company is in a bind and happens to ask a pilot about flying a day off, a simple "no thanks" ends it right there, no questions asked.

-other pertinent infomation-lots of positive rumors and lots of growth coming. From what I've seen pilots often work long days and often spend 3-4 nights away from home, though some of this will get better as staffing levels increase. The company honestly makes an effort to make life easier for the pilots. While 12 hour duty days are not unusual, 14 hour days are not that common since managment approval is requred to schedule a pilot longer than 12 hours.

Maintenance is good-if something breaks it gets written up and fixed. Hotels are decent, and the company gets rental cars if there is nowhere close to the hotel for food, or if there is no shuttle. If a pilot has a long day with few chances to get food, a crew meal is ordered.

As an example of how the pilot group is treated, in the past few weeks one pilot reqested that he get home on Halloween to T-or-T with his kids and another asked for a schedule that would allow time at home to vote. Though I dont know if it was possible to accomodate these requests, I do know for a fact that an honest attempt was made to work both schedules out. At many 135 operators the requests would have been laughed at and forgotten.

 

[brett]

-pay scale-not 100% sure this is right, but I think it's $27k to start, $31k after 6 months, and around $35k 2nd year.

This is based on 4/3. We are paid extra when we have to work the fifth day. I believe it's 33K after six and 36K after 12. After two years the company can't force the fifth day, but you can volunteer to work it if you want extra $$.

 

[OPECJet]

Bases?

 

[LAFrequentflyer]

Honestly, whats it like flying single pilot? For me the appeal is you are a CA and make the decisions on your own. Am I correct or is SATS AIR regulated to the point that dispatch will make the calls for you. Just seeking information on a what sounds like a good post AF retirement job.

Sincerely,
LAFF

 

[brett]

Single pilot, like most things, has its positives and negatives. It can be challenging dealing with everything on your own; although flight coordination helps by dealing with the pax, setting up hotel room, car, etc. The well integrated systems and capabilities of the SR22 help a lot.

We don't have a true dispatch like a part 121 operator does. Our dispatch is a group of "flight coordinators" and even though some may be licensed dispatchers they have no authority on initiating or terminating flights. They wear a lot of hats and do a fantastic job in my opinion. The ones that are actual dispatchers and/or pilots will offer helpful info and suggestions, but will never argue a pilot's call.

BTW -- SATSair was on CNBC the other night; here's the link:

Taking a taxi in the sky

Honestly, whats it like flying single pilot? For me the appeal is you are a CA and make the decisions on your own. Am I correct or is SATS AIR regulated to the point that dispatch will make the calls for you. Just seeking information on a what sounds like a good post AF retirement job.

Sincerely,
LAFF

 

[LAFrequentflyer]

Single pilot, like most things, has its positives and negatives. It can be challenging dealing with everything on your own; although flight coordination helps by dealing with the pax, setting up hotel room, car, etc. The well integrated systems and capabilities of the SR22 help a lot.

We don't have a true dispatch like a part 121 operator does. Our dispatch is a group of "flight coordinators" and even though some may be licensed dispatchers they have no authority on initiating or terminating flights. They wear a lot of hats and do a fantastic job in my opinion. The ones that are actual dispatchers and/or pilots will offer helpful info and suggestions, but will never argue a pilot's call.

BTW -- SATSair was on CNBC the other night; here's the link:

Taking a taxi in the sky

Thanks. I acutally like doing that type of coordination work. I've done my share of executive officer and aide-de-camp tours for senior officer in the USAF. I was one of those that made the best of the opportunity and it paid off big time career wise and on a personal level...

SATSAir sounds like my type of job...

-LAFF

 

[LAFrequentflyer]

I got another question...I'm trying to find and track SatsAir planes on flightaware. What call signs do they go by?

Thanks,
LAFF

 

[BlackPilot628]

Their callsign is "Aerocab" and thier ID is SYK.
They normally use single to double digit numbers.

IE" SYK5, SYK17

 

[LAFrequentflyer]

Their callsign is "Aerocab" and thier ID is SYK.
They normally use single to double digit numbers.

IE" SYK5, SYK17

Thanks...How many hours / how much flying on the days on? Also, can you work extra on your days off? If so - is there an adjusted pay for those times?

Thanks,
LAFF