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GuppyPuppy

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Check out this custom paint job on the B737!

Sweet!

I seem to remember a story about an Alaska plane getting hit on takeoff in SE AK by a salmon. How could that have happened? Spooked an eagle carrying his family's dinner. Dropped dinner collided with aircraft. Score - Airplane 1, Salmon 0.

http://www.alaskaair.com/as/www2/Promo/fishplane.asp

Looks so much better than Shamu.

Cheers!

GP
 
I was in BWI and was almost hit by a fish that way. The bird (not sure what kind) was carrying a LARGE fish and his climb rate wasn't that good. He had to be way over his MTOW because he barely cleared us!
 
There's an article in the September issue of Airways magazine about the Alaska incident. There was a fed on the jumpseat no less. Happened on March 30, 1987 and both pilots are still with Alaska. Pretty good story. As they say sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
 
GuppyPuppy said:
Check out this custom paint job on the B737!

Sweet!

I seem to remember a story about an Alaska plane getting hit on takeoff in SE AK by a salmon. How could that have happened? Spooked an eagle carrying his family's dinner. Dropped dinner collided with aircraft. Score - Airplane 1, Salmon 0.

http://www.alaskaair.com/as/www2/Promo/fishplane.asp

Looks so much better than Shamu.

Cheers!

GP


Anything looks better than Shamu!!


PHXFLYR:cool:
 
An A-10 assigned to the Eglin AFB test center in the early 1990s took a snake-stike as it came off a gun pass, similar circumstances as the Alaska incident mentioned earlier. The reptile went right into number 1 and was big enough to damage some blades in the engine core. You know how any type of bird that makes it into the core smells like really bad chicken cooking? I was told that snake bits in the compressor section don't smell "just like chicken."
 
Yeah, their is a pic on A.net as well. Very attractive aircraft. As geeky as this may sound. . . .I can't wait to see it in real life.
 
I heard tell of a Hawker suffering a snake strike in flight.
 
I saw this plane right after touchdown at SEA yesterday - it really catches your eye (no pun intended). And speaking of strikes, we took a lightning bolt on the nose on downwind just a few minutes prior. Fun way to end the day.
 
ivauir said:
Shamu says salmon taste GREAT!
One of our guys was in SEA the other day with one of our Shamus. We actually had all four of them at the time. The Salmon aircraft was there. ATC says "The Orcas are killing fish"
 
Paid for with your tax dollars....

Alaska Airlines takes flying fish to a whole new level

$500,000 grant from federal funding pays for custom paint job on company's passenger jet
By WESLEY LOY
Anchorage Daily News
Published: October 2, 2005
Last Modified: October 2, 2005 at 03:07 AM


So, you landed a big king salmon this summer? It can't compare to the colossal king Alaska Airlines plans to land this morning in Anchorage.

The Seattle-based carrier has painted nearly the full length of a Boeing 737-400 passenger jet as a wild Alaska king, or chinook, salmon. The airline has dubbed its flying fish the "Salmon-Thirty-Salmon."
It's a bold promotional move to celebrate wild Alaska seafood and also the carrier's role in hauling millions of pounds of fresh salmon, halibut, crab, shrimp and other seafood out of the state each year.
The fishy paint job was done on a grand scale, company spokesmen said. A team of 30 painters and airbrush artists used more than 140 gallons of paint and took 24 days to render the lifelike chinook -- triple the time normally needed to coat an airliner.
"There's no question, at least in my mind, that this is the finest airline art ever conceived," said Bill MacKay, the company's Anchorage-based senior vice president. "People will just be amazed at the detail."
A local nonprofit agency, the Alaska Fisheries Marketing Board, gave Alaska Airlines a $500,000 grant to paint the jet. The money came out of about $29 million in federal funding U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska and his congressional colleagues have appropriated to the marketing board, created in 2003, to promote and enhance the value of Alaska seafood. The senator's son, state Sen. Ben Stevens, is chairman of the agency's board of directors.
The state's commercial salmon industry has struggled for years due to competition from foreign, farm-raised salmon, but the promotional dollars are helping the industry make a comeback, said Bill Hines, the marketing board's executive director.
Many commercial fishermen and industry boosters have dreamed of seeing an Alaska Airlines jet emblazoned with a fish, Hines said. Alaska Airlines approached the marketing board with the idea, and the board awarded the grant.
 
PHX767 said:
The money came out of about $29 million in federal funding

I wonder why there is talk of general aviation users fees, in addition to the gas tax we already pay? I thought some of our tax dollars were supposed to be spent on keeping the airway system safe, not on pretty paint jobs! I can't fault Alaska for taking the money, but come on people, this is a little nuts. I like to think of myself as a fiscal conservative (from MA!!), and a lot of recent spending, espcially by elected republicans is really starting to get on my nerves. BTW, I love the paint job (obviously pissed that I paid for it) !
 
Let's see. A $500k grant from the Alaska Fisheries Marketing Board that was part of a $29M federal funding provided to the board...and YOU paid for it. I'd like to know just how much WAS your contribution?

BTW, could you send a little my way? I have 2 kids in college. I'm "pissed" that you spent all your money on this paint job and have none left for my kids' college.
 
Don't touch - It's my money!

$500,000/250,000,000 US tax payers (rough guess) = $0.002

Yes, not a ton of money......

$pork,pork,pork,pork,pork/250,000,000 US taxpayers = a $hitload

Personally, I see a disturbing trend of ELECTED officials not seeming to remember where their yearly budgets originally get funded. You know the answer. :erm:

Again, I like the paint job (see, I'm not totally off topic). :D
 
money well spent

You are missing the point. Yes, these are federal dollars, but big govt didn't buy a paint job, they gave a grant to a struggling business (alaska fisheries) to help make them more competative against foreign sources (farmed salmon). The alaska fisheries simply chose to advertise in a unique and eye catching way. I think it's great and am happy to chip in my $0.02
 
How's that $250 million Ted Stevens bridge coming along? Is the $250 BBBBBillion GRANT for LA going to get approved (I hope not). Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping out folks that can't CURRENTLY help themselves. Bootstraps, initiative, yada yada yada........

Signed,
Scrooge :)
 
Geronimo4497 said:
I wonder why there is talk of general aviation users fees, in addition to the gas tax we already pay? I thought some of our tax dollars were supposed to be spent on keeping the airway system safe, not on pretty paint jobs! I can't fault Alaska for taking the money, but come on people, this is a little nuts. I like to think of myself as a fiscal conservative (from MA!!), and a lot of recent spending, espcially by elected republicans is really starting to get on my nerves. BTW, I love the paint job (obviously pissed that I paid for it) !

You voted for the numbnuts who approved this so what are you complaining about?
 
dispatcher121 said:
FLAIM BAIT!

It only makes sense that these two organizations promote the fishing industry in Alaska. Both industries represent the state of Alaska...and they do it with pride.

That's funny, here I thought that they exploited the people of Alaska just to make a buck.
 
Rhino said:
You are missing the point. Yes, these are federal dollars, but big govt didn't buy a paint job, they gave a grant to a struggling business (alaska fisheries) to help make them more competative against foreign sources (farmed salmon). The alaska fisheries simply chose to advertise in a unique and eye catching way. I think it's great and am happy to chip in my $0.02

You must be new to the state and how things run up here.....There is no doubt that the taxpayers of america paid to but a fish on the plane....The taxpayers of america pay for just about everything in Alaska.....the roads , the schools, the airports, the airlines etc...etc...etc... and Alaska(seattle airlines) Airlines has perfected the art of the graft.....It is one of the ways that a historically poorly run, crappy little airline has managed to maintain some degree of profitability all these years.....hopefully some national news outlet(as though there are any of those) catches on to this gross display of pork barrel money wasting and out of shame we have to squirt juneau white all over the jet and put bobby marley back on the tail.....what a joke
 
InTransit said:
I saw this plane right after touchdown at SEA yesterday - it really catches your eye (no pun intended). And speaking of strikes, we took a lightning bolt on the nose on downwind just a few minutes prior. Fun way to end the day.
Maybe a stupid question, but is a lightning strike really loud in an airplane?
 
tico said:
You must be new to the state and how things run up here.....There is no doubt that the taxpayers of america paid to but a fish on the plane....The taxpayers of america pay for just about everything in Alaska.....the roads , the schools, the airports, the airlines etc...etc...etc... and Alaska(seattle airlines) Airlines has perfected the art of the graft.....It is one of the ways that a historically poorly run, crappy little airline has managed to maintain some degree of profitability all these years.....hopefully some national news outlet(as though there are any of those) catches on to this gross display of pork barrel money wasting and out of shame we have to squirt juneau white all over the jet and put bobby marley back on the tail.....what a joke

OK, this can be fixed by doing what? Who did you vote for up there?
 
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dispatcher121 said:
FLAIM BAIT!

It only makes sense that these two organizations promote the fishing industry in Alaska. Both industries represent the state of Alaska...and they do it with pride.

I don't see how pointing out that the taxpayers paid for the paint job is flame bait, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

My point is that if Alaska and the fishing industry wanted to promote salmon, then they should pay for it, not us. Who paid for the Shamu paint schemes? I am sure it was not paid for with federal funds, probably a joint venture with Sea World and SWA.

I don't agree with using public money to support business.
 
I think they should have done the right thing and used the money they stole from their pilots to pay for it........


From Neilz Nuze @ Boortz.com Wednesday -- October 5, 2005

A $500,000 ALASKAN KING SALMON -- AND GUESS WHO PAID FOR IT?

You've heard about this one, haven't you? The taxpayers of the United States have forked over $500,000 to paint a giant Alaskan King Salmon on the side of an Alaska Airlines Boeing 737. This money came from a $20 million grant of taxpayer's money to a marketing board in Alaska to promote Alaskan fish. The money was requested by Alaska's Republican Senator Ted Stephens. You might be interested in knowing that Ted Stephen's son is the chairman of the board of the marketing board that got the money and spent it on this fish painting.

If the average tax burden in this country is $5000 per household (and that's just a guess) then this is the total federal tax payments of about 100 American households. Every one of these households has needs. Every one of these households has dreams. Senator Ted Stephens has essentially told these households -- every one of them -- that he believes that it was more important for the federal government to seize their $5000 and spend it painting a fish on an airplane than it was for them to use it for medical expenses, education, job training, to pay off bills, to pay the down payment on a new home, or just to enjoy a nice family vacation. This is totally and completely unconscionable. It should be punishable as a crime. Remember, please, that embattled House Majority Leader Tom Delay said that there is no fat in the federal budget. So ... he doesn't think that money appropriated to paint a fish on an airplane is fat?

Just how long are we going to let these people in congress get away with these outrages? How many similar spending measures don't we know about?


http://boortz.com/images/alaskan_airlines_salmon.jpg
 
dispatcher121 said:
Ooooooooh sounds like someone from PenAir didn't get a favorable interview! :p


Not the case on this one Wynona, Just a little tired of spin from the airgroup and a little tired of the perception that the state of alaska and somehow by default alaska airlines represent this pristine , rugged, self-reliant land when in fact alaska is just a large socialist country.....people in arkansas are much more rugged and self-reliant than people in alaska....rant over
 

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