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Rumor: SWA to announce DEN pilot bases tomorrow 1/31/12

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outerlimits said:
Dont worry about flying to Hawaii. Hawaiian Airlines( with there 15 aircraft) are going to clean your guys clock over at Southwest.
I am not sure why SWA even would want to take on Hawaiian Airlines and the fire power they have.

Dan R back me up, you more than anyone hate SWA .
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You are not doing a very good job of hiding the fact that you are a SWA pilot trying to make DAL/RJ's look bad.
 
vixin said:
Per Title X of the Pitkin County Code, the airport has several unique operating limitations.Aircraft weight is restricted to 100,000 pounds (45,000 kg) maximum certificated gross landing weight or less.
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Vixin,

I was looking at that last night and laughed. I have been in and out of ASE so much that you always cross your T's and dot your I's. It's a landing limit. The G5 I think has a 99 foot wing span. I bet if the numbers work per TERPs, aircraft AFM, wing waiver the 717, it would do fine. But don't fly the airplane, so don't know.

The second segment climb gradient is not a issue unless it is IMC, Eng Ice on, heavy and tailwind on take off. Most large airplanes can make it. If it is a pretty VMC day just request a vmc climb under a IFR flight plan. Bang a eng fly down the valley at a 1.6 vmc climb go to EGE or Rifle (vmc only). If winds aloft are low and turn radius works, just turn around. If the 717 started doing flying like this and places like KSUN, hell I would go bid it. It would make flying fun again.
 
The wingspan issue with the taxiway can probably be waived. They have a similar limit with the Q400 going in to Sun Valley and simply have an empty taxiway when they land. Problem solved... All that being said Aspen is pretty tight for an 8000 foot runway. I also really enjoy flying there on clear calm days!
 
The 717 is a good airplane for many things. High performance climb is not one of them. Descending like a stone is something it does well. Like a previous poster wrote "small wing". It's far better than the DC-9. But have you ever tried jumpseating on an MD80 out of RNO? The minute they have an alternate to DFW there pulling pax off. The wingspan is not an issue, it's only about 93 ft. AT already operates several aircraft with the normal power engines. They started that when we began KDEN service. I think range and payload would be a big issue out of Aspen if it can do it at all. Also the brakes get very warm quickly on that airplane especially at high altitudes. All together making for a poor operational fit.
 
humveedriver said:
The 717 is a good airplane for many things. High performance climb is not one of them. Descending like a stone is something it does well. Like a previous poster wrote "small wing". It's far better than the DC-9. But have you ever tried jumpseating on an MD80 out of RNO? The minute they have an alternate to DFW there pulling pax off. The wingspan is not an issue, it's only about 93 ft. AT already operates several aircraft with the normal power engines. They started that when we began KDEN service. I think range and payload would be a big issue out of Aspen if it can do it at all. Also the brakes get very warm quickly on that airplane especially at high altitudes. All together making for a poor operational fit.
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As far as the range, we just hop over to DEN and connect the pax to where they need to go. less than 30 min. Bumpy ride in the winter though.
 
It's alot of hops to get the plane from ATL to DEN. Tampa and Atlanta are the only bases right ;-) It would be cool to see if the plane could handle it. But you just couldn't quick turn the brakes, seriously.

- throw an 18 hour over night in there and now we're talking!
 
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Dan Roman said:
You are not doing a very good job of hiding the fact that you are a SWA pilot trying to make DAL/RJ's look bad.
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Your the only one here making DAL look bad. Besides am I the only one here who has no idea what this guy is talking about? DAL/RJ? Why do you keep spouting about this fictitious grudge that SWA guys hold? I have been flying a lot lately and the worst comment ive heard about DAL in the cockpit is "I wish this guy would turn off his strobes". Take your manifesto elsewhere cause we aint buyin.
 
Sarcasm is the purview of intelligent people.
 
Signature lines say it all! Boo Yah!
 
717 wingspan - 93' 4". MLW - Depends on what you bought! Certified to 110K, AirTran only paid for 104K, so that's what we use. Could they lower it to 100K? Absolutely, if someone wanted to. Strictly a paperwork issue.

But why bother, the airplanes are going away...
 
tankerhead said:
???

I did ATL-DEN last spring in a fully loaded 717...rare trip, but it's in my logbook.
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You left out my wink! My point is I think SWA will eventuallu employ the 717 on shorter routes where it makes more sense. Thats why we don't run them out to DEN like we used to before 737's. ATL-STL-DEN wouldn't be bad actually. I'm thinking one day before they are gone we will see 71's doing more intra-FL,TX and CA. Time will tell. And to stay on topic, I hope the new base is DEN.
 
SELFloadingCRGO said:
And still no crew base announcement, guess those rumors of Feb 30th are starting to be more and more accurate...:p



SLC
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Mechanic told me that the new domicile would be announced when their vote is done to add more work groups to their representation, this has nothing to do with their seniority list, and he said it was DEN and a ton of senior mechanics already live there and are commuting to LAS and PHX.

He mentioned the date of when the vote is over but I didn't make a mental note.

Later,
KBB
 
vixin said:
Per Title X of the Pitkin County Code, the airport has several unique operating limitations.Aircraft weight is restricted to 100,000 pounds (45,000 kg) maximum certificated gross landing weight or less.
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Huh, yeah you got me there. I do know the locals are absolutely polarized against large aircraft using the airport.
 
Dan Roman said:
Sure comes across as someone turned down by DAL at one point in his career before going to SWA.
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About the same as the ones who were turned down by SWA before going to XXX.
 
Originally Posted by Dan Roman
Sure comes across as someone turned down by DAL at one point in his career before going to SWA.
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That is like saying the Titanic sold out of tickets and you had to get on another ship.

Where do I sign up for the turned-down-by-ABC-but you will be hired by SWA later package

please tell me
 

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