Rollout Schedule for Netjets Phenom 300s?

[Pervis]

I hate to burst the x pilots bubbles but that plain is no longer the fastest business jet.

The "TEN" is to be certified at .935 Mach. I believe the G650 is .925 Mach. As previously posted by several folks, the speed means nada to the crews. The owners love it. They're the ones cutting the checks, not us.

 

[BoilerUP]

Its no longer the TEN, but rather the "New Citation X".

 

[jtf]

My guess is at least half the pilots in the X do care about the speed or why would they have stayed in the X for so long? That airplane is a nightmare for me the way NetJets uses it. All those long flights I that tiny cockpit looks like Suck City to me.

 

[ozpilot]

The speed doesn't matter to me. A duty day is a duty day. They don't pay me by the mile. What I do like is the ability to climb to altitude. The ability to routinely fly in the mid to high 40's means we are usually well above the weather. The owners like that as much, if not more, than the speed.

To me its greatest attribute is that it performs so well in a very wide operating environment. In that regard its up there with other great aircraft designs such as the Bonanza V tail, DC-3 and B-52.

 

[jenex]

NetJets’ earnings
in the third quarter of 2012 declined $30 million versus the third quarter of 2011, which largely offset much of the improvement in
comparative earnings over the first six months. NetJets’ results in the third quarter of 2012 were negatively impacted by lower gains on asset
dispositions, increased depreciation expense and unfavorable foreign currency movements compared to the third quarter of 2011.
How many Phenoms can you buy for 30 million?

 

[Pervis]

Jenex, less earnings is not a loss, but simply less profit. This was expected, and earning for the first three quarters of the year are ahead of forecast. As to your question, probably somewhere around 4 Phenoms.

 

[CA1900]

Also remember that "Netjets" includes Netjets Europe.

 

[CALRepublic]

NJE dragged down our operating profits for the 3rd quarter, NJA had an OK quarter

I'd like to add that large corporations like Berkshire look at the rate of return, not profits when they're assessing their investments/companies.... But yes profits matter too

 

[ozpilot]

CAL. If there is no profit there is no rate of return. The rare of return determines the minimum profit required to continue the investment.

 

[greed]

not bad looking, looks better than the barbie jet (BE400)

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7464874&nseq=0

Thanks for posting that link, it is a nice looking bird

 

[ekuflyer]

300QS is a demo plane our pilots are flying around. Demo vs ours will be the same except the avionics. Two a month starting in April till the end of the year. After that it depends on sales. The 300 replaces the ultra, encore, encore+, and beechjet.

What is different about the avionics?

 

[CA1900]

The demo has Garmin 1000. Our production planes will have the Garmin 3000.

 

[fischman]

The demo has Garmin 1000. Our production planes will have the Garmin 3000.

Which is almost as cool as a Binford 3000.






More


Power...

 

[gunfyter]

Which is almost as cool as a Binford 3000.
.

:laugh:

 

[CA1900]

Which is almost as cool as a Binford 3000.

If only it were as easy to clean as the Binford 6100 Man's Kitchen!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuJD1-1e-i4


:laugh:

 

[ghostrider64]

Never said we're doomed without it. A very prominent comedian went to the boss irate that we were disposing of the X's. Another asked me several years ago about the SSBJ, and when I said it would cost at least $100 million, he didn't even blink and said he'd buy one. Image is a huge thing to some, whether it's for bragging rights or the illusion of time versus money. The fact is we cater to those where image is very important. We'll get the Ten.

He can afford buying one outright and then having EJM manage it...he'll then get to experience a G200 coming and flying him as the dinosaur leaves him stranded due to maintenance issues....

 

[rajflyboy]

Emb 505

Great Fleet

 

[FLYLOW22]

He can afford buying one outright and then having EJM manage it...he'll then get to experience a G200 coming and flying him as the dinosaur leaves him stranded due to maintenance issues....

Average recovery times for another NetJets aircraft are the best of any other "competitors".

Stranded? Hardly.

 

[jonjuan]

Average recovery times for another NetJets aircraft are the best of any other "competitors".

Proof????

 

[SDCFI]

Proof????

There's at least 3 planes with crews on standby at every FBO in the country, it must be true!

 

[FLYLOW22]

Proof????

Umm...

I've witnessed it from both ends.

The G200 does recoveries regularly for a myriad of reasons. The Owner buys a network of aircraft when buying into NetJets.

We're sitting early in the morning for example and backing up a few dozen flights within a 30 minute flight. If there are unforeseen issues in the morning, we have the ball.

That's how it works.

No other companies have the critical size to not only cover demand but strategically place enough reserves around the country to recover a cancellation... Within minutes... Except NetJets.

 

[NJAowner]

Flylow -- you sound like a salesman. Please do not mistake pre 8/2009 facts and current marketing puffery for reality. To NetJets owners recovery "ain't what it used to be" and the beancounters in CMH would now prefer to give an owner a credit and have him wait, wait, wait if that is cheaper than the cost of sending a recovery aircraft. In the old days it was a recovery aircraft of any size, big or small, before an owner had to wait. Now there is a cost comparison made.

 

[jonjuan]

Umm...

I've witnessed it from both ends.

The G200 does recoveries regularly for a myriad of reasons. The Owner buys a network of aircraft when buying into NetJets.

We're sitting early in the morning for example and backing up a few dozen flights within a 30 minute flight. If there are unforeseen issues in the morning, we have the ball.

That's how it works.

No other companies have the critical size to not only cover demand but strategically place enough reserves around the country to recover a cancellation... Within minutes... Except NetJets.

Ummmmmm....that's how it works with all of the frax. The more older aircraft and the more owners you have, the greater the recoveries. If the "metrics" you are spewing were even remotely true, other frax wouldn't exist.
Back to us air.

 

[jonjuan]

Flylow -- you sound like a salesman. Please do not mistake pre 8/2009 facts and current marketing puffery for reality. To NetJets owners recovery "ain't what it used to be" and the beancounters in CMH would now prefer to give an owner a credit and have him wait, wait, wait if that is cheaper than the cost of sending a recovery aircraft. In the old days it was a recovery aircraft of any size, big or small, before an owner had to wait. Now there is a cost comparison made.

Lmfao...flylow knows the dealio.

 

[propsarebest]

Umm...

I've witnessed it from both ends.

The G200 does recoveries regularly for a myriad of reasons. The Owner buys a network of aircraft when buying into NetJets.

We're sitting early in the morning for example and backing up a few dozen flights within a 30 minute flight. If there are unforeseen issues in the morning, we have the ball.

That's how it works.

No other companies have the critical size to not only cover demand but strategically place enough reserves around the country to recover a cancellation... Within minutes... Except NetJets.

Then why is my company called all the time to do recoveries for you guys?

 

[fischman]

Then why is my company called all the time to do recoveries for you guys?

Very interesting...

How many selloffs have the rest of the NJA guys seen this year?

 

[FLYLOW22]

Ummmmmm....that's how it works with all of the frax. The more older aircraft and the more owners you have, the greater the recoveries. If the "metrics" you are spewing were even remotely true, other frax wouldn't exist.
Back to us air.

In reality, compared to how we operated and what we do... They don't.

You mean AA, right?

 

[FLYLOW22]

Flylow -- you sound like a salesman. Please do not mistake pre 8/2009 facts and current marketing puffery for reality. To NetJets owners recovery "ain't what it used to be" and the beancounters in CMH would now prefer to give an owner a credit and have him wait, wait, wait if that is cheaper than the cost of sending a recovery aircraft. In the old days it was a recovery aircraft of any size, big or small, before an owner had to wait. Now there is a cost comparison made.

I'm sorry, I haven't witnessed recovery delays in the hours... It's closer to minutes.

I'm not sure what to say... I can't force you to see things my way, or be correct.

Regards.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Then why is my company called all the time to do recoveries for you guys?

How many has your company flown for us? Name of your operator?

 

[NJAowner]

FLYLOW -- yes -- my delays in the past few years have been in minutes --120 minutes, 180 minutes, etc. And unless you are sitting in TEB, HPN, PBI, etc., many, many owners have experienced a large increase in the frequency and length of recoveries. The very interesting thing is the operatioons has figured out how to play with the Intellijet system so it does not appear that recoveries are as often or as long.