Rollout Schedule for Netjets Phenom 300s?

[BentOver]

Aww give Pervis a break, he has weekly sit-ins with Uncle Warren, Jordan and Noe.....:beer:


There will always be those guys, at every company, who are absolutely positive they are in the loop at all times

 

[BentOver]

And that’s the best-case scenario.

Yeah I agree

 

[Pervis]

Aww give Pervis a break, he has weekly sit-ins with Uncle Warren, Jordan and Noe.....:beer:


There will always be those guys, at every company, who are absolutely positive they are in the loop at all times

Certainly not in the the loop, and only an opinion. Something you fail to differentiate from.

Frankly, I don't care what I fly so long as it pays the bills. I am in a disposal fleet, but will transition when appropriate to a C172 if my pay stays the same. It's one hotel to the other, regardless of how far it is between the two. There is nothing in the civilian inventory that will exceed my military experience, and your feeble attempts to insult me carry as little weight as you groin.

 

[CALRepublic]

Ten pilots are the only ones that think the company will die without a Ten.

Ten and Gulfstream guys sound the same. "The company is doomed without our plane".

I could not agree more.

the Gulfstream guys are even worst, I've talked to a few about that, " OH MY LORD, why did we switch from Gulfstreams to Globals, may God have mercy on our souls, we're done"

 

[johnsonrod]

not bad looking, looks better than the barbie jet (BE400)

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7464874&nseq=0

Wow - that is a pretty looking airplane. Probably much better performance than the Beechjunk or Encore...

Hope the interior and finish is nicer than my beat-up ERJ. :laugh: I know Netjets is touting the "Signature Series" with new interior, etc. Speaking with a corporate pilot recently who flew a Phenom 300 demo airplane, he was not impressed with the "plastic" feel of the flight deck. I think his company ended going with a CJ3 or CJ4.

 

[OPECJet]

I tend to agree about the X. I flew several owners who bought the airplane solely because of the speed. Whether or not they'll leave the program solely because of it going away I can't say. Considering NJA continues to shrink at 7% per month / quarter / whatever time measure they're using, I think it short sighted not to keep something that retains owners in the program. It only helps to extend that 2015 time frame I'm hearing for recalls.

 

[bluepost]

Difference between the G and the Globals is the they both do the same thing in the same price category. Right now there isn't anything in the midsize that has the speed of the X. Customers will decide what NJA buys.

 

[rajflyboy]

I hate to burst the x pilots bubbles but that plain is no longer the fastest business jet.

 

[fob727]

Plain????

 

[OPECJet]

I didn't know plains moved.

Isn't the TEN supposed to be one millionth of a mach number faster than the 650?

BTW, I don't know many pilots who gave a rats ass about the speed. It's the owners who do. The extra speed just means we're flying more recoveries with PO'ed owners than the other guys.

 

[Pervis]

I hate to burst the x pilots bubbles but that plain is no longer the fastest business jet.

The "TEN" is to be certified at .935 Mach. I believe the G650 is .925 Mach. As previously posted by several folks, the speed means nada to the crews. The owners love it. They're the ones cutting the checks, not us.

 

[BoilerUP]

Its no longer the TEN, but rather the "New Citation X".

 

[jtf]

My guess is at least half the pilots in the X do care about the speed or why would they have stayed in the X for so long? That airplane is a nightmare for me the way NetJets uses it. All those long flights I that tiny cockpit looks like Suck City to me.

 

[ozpilot]

The speed doesn't matter to me. A duty day is a duty day. They don't pay me by the mile. What I do like is the ability to climb to altitude. The ability to routinely fly in the mid to high 40's means we are usually well above the weather. The owners like that as much, if not more, than the speed.

To me its greatest attribute is that it performs so well in a very wide operating environment. In that regard its up there with other great aircraft designs such as the Bonanza V tail, DC-3 and B-52.

 

[jenex]

NetJets’ earnings
in the third quarter of 2012 declined $30 million versus the third quarter of 2011, which largely offset much of the improvement in
comparative earnings over the first six months. NetJets’ results in the third quarter of 2012 were negatively impacted by lower gains on asset
dispositions, increased depreciation expense and unfavorable foreign currency movements compared to the third quarter of 2011.
How many Phenoms can you buy for 30 million?

 

[Pervis]

Jenex, less earnings is not a loss, but simply less profit. This was expected, and earning for the first three quarters of the year are ahead of forecast. As to your question, probably somewhere around 4 Phenoms.

 

[CA1900]

Also remember that "Netjets" includes Netjets Europe.

 

[CALRepublic]

NJE dragged down our operating profits for the 3rd quarter, NJA had an OK quarter

I'd like to add that large corporations like Berkshire look at the rate of return, not profits when they're assessing their investments/companies.... But yes profits matter too

 

[ozpilot]

CAL. If there is no profit there is no rate of return. The rare of return determines the minimum profit required to continue the investment.

 

[greed]

not bad looking, looks better than the barbie jet (BE400)

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7464874&nseq=0

Thanks for posting that link, it is a nice looking bird