Rolling Rest Flexjet Pilot Alert

[doylehargraves]

I really don't see DG giving us the rules that netjets has. He'll say that our business is just too dynamic to set things in stone. He might be right but, I think netjets can get away with it because they seem to have alot of people sitting around FBO's just waiting to do something; we don't.

I wish they would just put it in writing that there can be absolutely NO CONTACT, electronic or verbal, for AT LEAST 10 HOURS. That IS what we're talking about here.

I do agree that these 2am wake up calls are getting out of hand. There is one excuse to be called at 2 in the morning, and that is POOR PLANNING by the company. I think the rule should be that if you are contacted prior to 4am local, there should be a 10 duty limit followed by a 14 hour rest period. Will they go for this?? Maybe??

All this, however, is a pipe dream at this point and, the only way to get true rest rules is via the union.

 

[DirtyBeech]

It's my understanding that our rest rules will change for the better in short order. A little birdie told me that the FAA has strongly suggested we take a proactive stance in regards to it.

BTW, we have a rest proposal sitting on the desk of those above my paygrade in the crystal palace. We contracted a company to come up with it, and suprise, surpirse, it's very much like what NJ's is doing.

 

[luckydog]

Show me a pilot that turns off his phone, and was tried to be contacted by the company during rest, didn't answer, caused a schedule change, and did NOT get in trouble."

It happens more than people think.

 

[gunfyter]

It's my understanding that our rest rules will change for the better in short order. A little birdie told me that the FAA has strongly suggested we take a proactive stance in regards to it.

BTW, we have a rest proposal sitting on the desk of those above my paygrade in the crystal palace. We contracted a company to come up with it, and suprise, surpirse, it's very much like what NJ's is doing.

I would guess increased hiring and upgrades will follow.

 

[doh]

It's my understanding that our rest rules will change for the better in short order. A little birdie told me that the FAA has strongly suggested we take a proactive stance in regards to it.

BTW, we have a rest proposal sitting on the desk of those above my paygrade in the crystal palace. We contracted a company to come up with it, and suprise, surpirse, it's very much like what NJ's is doing.

I too have heard the little birdie rumour. Not sure about rumours though. But I hope it is true.

 

[SDCFI]

Funny how all of a sudden when the FAA starts cracking down on something the company decides they're going to fix it, and then they make it sound like some kind of favor to us! Gee, thanks for setting up a board to "look into" duty/rest issues so that we can finally at least comply with the minimum FAA regs. I wonder if this has anything to do with our getting a new POI? I heard the old one had like 30-something companies to oversee, and now he's only going to have 1! Doesn't sound at all fishy to me. Maybe I'm just too cynical, this business will do that to you.

 

[Club ORD FO]

Did we get a new POI? I had not heard that, but i'm guessing it is a good thing.

I guess some good came from the rash of rest/duty related ASAP reports over the past few months.

 

[Necromonger]

No Rolling Rest!!!!!!!

Rolling Rest?

There's no rolling rest here at Flex......

Just ask Mangmt.... They'll tell ya so.

Keep on Truckin'!

SILENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:uzi:

 

[bailey3083]

No we have the same POI but he has filed for single carrier status so he will now just be over us and none of the other 30 companies he was watching.
We get 10 hours of rest per the regs.Just because the FOM says they can attempt to contact us the first/last 2 hours does not mean we have to answer the phone.

 

[JokerFuel]

Rest is rest and duty is duty. That is to say, I am either in rest or on duty. This is what needs to be defined.

 

[CA1900]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...flexjet_09bus.ART.State.Edition1.38ac8d1.html

 

[HalinTexas]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...flexjet_09bus.ART.State.Edition1.38ac8d1.html

Wow. Spent $70K to not spend $5K. Wonder what Flex's legal fees were.

 

[Fozzy]

Wow. Spent $70K to not spend $5K. Wonder what Flex's legal fees were.

You do what is easy, or you can do what is right.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Wow. Spent $70K to not spend $5K. Wonder what Flex's legal fees were.

Probably enough to discourage them from going after pilots who skip on the contract, or at least the ones who were near the end of their's.

 

[SDCFI]

No we have the same POI but he has filed for single carrier status so he will now just be over us and none of the other 30 companies he was watching.
We get 10 hours of rest per the regs.Just because the FOM says they can attempt to contact us the first/last 2 hours does not mean we have to answer the phone.

Hmm, I heard from SC in the training dept that Jay S was moving to OK City to be POI there and he would only have one company to oversee. Don't know where he got his info, maybe there was a bad translation somewhere. I just heard this earlier this week if that helps.