Rock fight for FedEx?

[Laughing_Jakal]

Foxleech

The thing that pi$$e$ me off about Foxleech and his ilk is that we all effectively pay more to cover his share which means that indirectly, my 9 yr old boy, 5 yr old girl, and 3 year old boy are underwriting his ability to exercise his rights under a contract including his ability to fly DFT and VLT. By my calculation, that makes them more of a man (collectively and individually) than he is.

Go away Foxleech... better yet, retire and get outta my seat...the new breed is in town and our blocks have 100% support and we aren't too old to start another career.

 

[FedEx]

Talked to my wife last night about the whole Union thing. She deals with the NEA (National Education Ass) largest Union in America. She said that if a teacher chooses not to join the Union then that teacher doesn't get any representation or legal counsel. Her dad is a teacher and hates the NEA, but he knows that when a student or parent accuses him of some leagal action, (he coaches girls basketball) he will have the NEA to back him up. MY wife deals with the Senior reps at the NEA and they told her that some teachers who get into trouble and ask for leagal counsel are first looked at to make sure they are members. If they are not members then they are told good luck and come back and talk to us when you join the membership. They said why should they help out a nonmember with all the others members paying dues? If they helped out the non-members, then there would be no incentive to join the Union.
I feel ALPA should do the same. Why should my dues help protect another pilot who is not paying dues?
Let this happen to one pilot and see how fast they join the Union...

Rez O. No desrespect to you, but what if the Union would have told you, good luck on getting your job back, come talk to us later when you become a member. I am tired of my hard earned $ helping out someone who choose not to belong to the Ass... Lets do what the NEA does and tell the pilot "good luck, let us know how everything works out".

 

[FoxHunter]

Go away Foxleech... better yet, retire and get outta my seat...the new breed is in town and our blocks have 100% support and we aren't too old to start another career.

Sorry Jakal, no plans to retire, keep quiet, or get out of the seat you some day may earn. Hope you soon advance past your Junior High mode. You just may get that opportunity to try a new line of work.

BTW, have you noticed how all weak pilots are among the strong ALPA suporters?

 

[sandman2122]

Weak Pilot's?

All you brave sh*hot scab pilots got it together right?? Weak pilot's my arse. The scabs (non-members) I've flown with in the Airbus are lousey pilots and have pathetic personalities......

Must get old being by yourself on layovers because no one wants to spend time with you since you're cheap.....

 

[FoxHunter]

All you brave sh*hot scab pilots got it together right?? Weak pilot's my arse. The scabs (non-members) I've flown with in the Airbus are lousey pilots and have pathetic personalities......

Must get old being by yourself on layovers because no one wants to spend time with you since you're cheap.....

Another Junior High Schooler!!! You are a perfect example at to why ALPA/or their avid supporters have Zero chance of signing a contract. All talk, childish talk at that, supported by each telling each other the same line of BS.

If I've been alone on layovers I have yet to notice. In any case I think I would prefer not joining you for dinner. I'm sure spending time on the flight deck with you would be more than enough. Pehaps you should make plans with Jakal so you can explore future emplyment opportunities.

 

[h.simpson]

active herk you are so right...the ignore feature is so nice. kind of like flushing a big, steamy, sewer pickle down the toilet.

just not quite as satisfying.

fox_loser...did you get beat up a lot when you were a kid?

(the great thing is i won't see his reply with ignore on)

 

[Purpledog]

I'm not a mean person and I have been cordial to nonmembers in the past since we are all human and have faults and traits that others might consider non-desirable. However, if FH is an adequate representation of our group of NMs, I think I might just drop the cordiality in favor of just ignoring their very existence. I don't agree with everything ALPA has done over the years but I do believe we have a good pilot group, negotiators, and MEC leadership at FDX. I just can't see how someone can retain self respect living off the fortunes of others without contributing. To each his own I guess.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez O. No desrespect to you, but what if the Union would have told you, good luck on getting your job back, come talk to us later when you become a member. I am tired of my hard earned $ helping out someone who choose not to belong to the Ass... Lets do what the NEA does and tell the pilot "good luck, let us know how everything works out".

My understanding of why FPA supported Capt Frake was so it wouldn't set a precedence for pilot pushing for a mjority of the FedEx pilots, who happen to have integrity and be dues paying members of the FedEx union

 

[SWPA Pilot]

FH were you beat up a lot as a child. If not, you should have been.

 

[FoxHunter]

FH were you beat up a lot as a child. If not, you should have been.

You guys are amusing. Hard tough union members, can't even make a simple rebuttal. The best you can do are names, idle threats. Pathetic children.

 

[PurpleTail]

Did you hear that? Is someone talking? I thought I heard something but I must be mistaken.

 

[sandman2122]

foxhunter

19,400 hours, WOW, and still not a team player........Enjoy your retirement, thanks to ALPA you freeloader.

Not name calling because it's the truth.

 

[Los1]

Back from a trip and back on this thread...
I hav said this at fox hunter, no personal attacks, no name calling, no childish behavior
just ignore the dude. Let him stew and/or think that he has all the answers..
remember...IGNORE
Los1

 

[Goose17]

You guys are amusing. Hard tough union members, can't even make a simple rebuttal. The best you can do are names, idle threats. Pathetic children.

FoxHunter,

I think the name calling comes with the frustration the union members (myself included) have with the non-union members. For the most part, we all understand if you have some deep seeded reason for not wanting to be a member. However, the "vibe" I get from many non-union members is that since it is a choice to be a member or not, they simply choose not to be a member for financial reasons. The non-union members reap the rewards, but don't put up their part of the ante. This shortcoming is made up by the rest of us union members and are thus paying your way, much like buying you dinner and watching you eat it without even hearing a thanks.

If you have a serious reason for not being a member, fine. Put yourself in for dues check off and thus stop relying on your fellow pilot to cover for you. If you don't respect the union, I hope at least you respect your fellow crewmembers.

Goose17

 

[Geronimo4497]

Interesting topic. Just out of curiousity, how much are member dues? I can't imagine that it is a ton of money, considering what you guys make.

P.S. - Can I have a job?