RJDC Gives Up!

[JoeMerchant]

Yes. They prevented the merry band of RJDC dimwits from eliminating all scope language.

That was never a goal of the RJDC...Please provide your reference that it was....

On issues that the RJDC addressed, ALPA was never moving in the wrong direction in the first place. The only mistake was allowing the outsourcing in the first place.

Says you....ALPA moved towards supper seniority for mainline pilots and restrictions on many properties.....ASA and CMR avoided much of that....because of the lawsuit......

No jetsforjobs, and more liberal RJ limits at DCI....ALPA has been moving in the wrong direction on scope for many years.....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

...ALPA spent millions on this lawsuit.......

Of mine and every ALPA members dues dollar.

One of the many problems with ALPA is the lack of individual concern. With everyone screwing everyone, the "losers" blame "ALPA" never looking at thier fellow pilot... with a box of screws...

 

[JoeMerchant]

Of mine and every ALPA members dues dollar.

One of the many problems with ALPA is the lack of individual concern. With everyone screwing everyone, the "losers" blame "ALPA" never looking at thier fellow pilot... with a box of screws...

1. I thought I was on your ignore list....What happened? In typical ALPA fashion....you cant keep your promise....Welcome back...

2. "One of the many problems with ALPA"? You sound like me now.....

3. "Everyone screwing everyone"? Again you sound like me....What do you mean??....Are you saying we are "screwing each other"....How is that so with a "brotherhood" and a "union".....

4. I see the box of screws....And I have a power driver....I'm ready.....Is there a foreman on the property who will see that we don't "screw" each other....Or should I fire up my power driver......

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

1. I thought I was on your ignore list....What happened? In typical ALPA fashion....you cant keep your promise....Welcome back...

I know... and I should know better, my motto for you is the same for the Wesites motto for the East. "you can't fix stupid" but I'll try...

2. "One of the many problems with ALPA"? You sound like me now.....

Don't flatter yourself. I recognize problems and work the problems.

You see problems in terms of whats in it for you. You are individualistic.

3. "Everyone screwing everyone"? Again you sound like me....What do you mean??....Are you saying we are "screwing each other"....How is that so with a "brotherhood" and a "union".....

By suing the union and costing us all millions of dollars, and you do it with pride and glee. It is your rapture. Of course you do this as a Ford and Harrison tool. You are their boy.

4. I see the box of screws....And I have a power driver....I'm ready.....Is there a foreman on the property who will see that we don't "screw" each other....Or should I fire up my power driver......

Sounds like a scab with all that screwing. You are not a scab are you Joey? You wouldn't sue, er I mean screw your fellow pilot would you?

 

[Copydat]

Settlement notice says everyone employed by Comair and ASA during the effective dates is to get "paid". I'll take the little lady out for some tacos and corona and leave a good tip. My night out courtesy of ALPA!

 

[N2264J]

Settlement notice says everyone employed by Comair and ASA during the effective dates is to get "paid".

That's not what it says.

If you didn't contribute to the effort financially, what you get out of it is a change in ALPA's policy.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

The money the RJDC spent seems excessive instead of using logic, leadership, influence, social and emotional skills, quid pro quo and politics.

 

[JoeMerchant]

The money the RJDC spent seems excessive instead of using logic, leadership, influence, social and emotional skills, quid pro quo and politics.

.....you mean like USAir/AWA and DAL/NWA are using???....ALPA could use some of the things you mentioned....unfortunately they all they understand is money....

 

[PuffDriver]

.....you mean like USAir/AWA and DAL/NWA are using???....ALPA could use some of the things you mentioned....unfortunately they all they understand is money....

Priceless. To summarize the "change" in ALPAs policy requires a consult for scope issues as per a Delta pilot:


DAL MEC: "We're going to take back all of the flying we gave you" <consulting part>

CONNECTION MECs: "Hey, you can't do that" <consulting part>

DAL MEC: "Blow me" <end of consulting part>

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Yes. They prevented the merry band of RJDC dimwits from eliminating all scope language.

They aren't as dumb as you think. Actually much smarter. And the idea that they wanted to eliminate all scope language is just what the boys at Delta want their blockhead constituency to believe. Looks like you bought it too.

 

[MJ42]

Priceless. To summarize the "change" in ALPAs policy requires a consult for scope issues as per a Delta pilot:


DAL MEC: "We're going to take back all of the flying we gave you" <consulting part>

CONNECTION MECs: "Hey, you can't do that" <consulting part>

DAL MEC: "Blow me" <end of consulting part>

Credit where credit's due...good (and funny) post!:beer:

 

[PuffDriver]

Credit where credit's due...good (and funny) post!:beer:

I wish I could take credit. It is shamelessly stolen--with credit anonymously given.

 

[N2264J]

CONNECTION MECs: "Hey, you can't do that" <consulting part>

DAL MEC: "Blow me" <end of consulting part>

This is how it's going with Northwest so far, isn't it?

Wouldn't it be rich if the Northwest pilots were the first to benefit from this settlement?

 

[PuffDriver]

This is how it's going with Northwest so far, isn't it?

Wouldn't it be rich if the Northwest pilots were the first to benefit from this settlement?

I suppose you would think that it might, but it ain't going down that way. I know that truth stings a little, but the truth is that you dug your own hole, and it has become a yp.

 

[N2264J]

I suppose you would think that it might, but it ain't going down that way. I know that truth stings a little, but the truth is that you dug your own hole, and it has become a yp.

Trailing off incoherently again, Poindexter? Or is it some new text jargon you picked up from your 13 year old friends? (I imagine a 13 year old would be very impressed with your credentials and all the ASA pilots you've flown with).

Maybe the Delta MEC didn't actually use the phase "blow me" to the Northwest pilots but can we extrapolate that it was inferred?

Delta Pilots Start Voting On Merger-Friendly Contract

Thu, 01 May '08

But New Deal Would Not Cover Northwest's 5,000 Pilots

Some 7,400 pilots at Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines started voting Thursday on a new contract that would give them pay raises, and an equity stake in a merged Delta/Northwest Airlines megacarrier...but the deal leaves pilots at Northwest out in the cold...

 

[PCL_128]

Trailing off incoherently again, Poindexter? Or is it some new text jargon you picked up from your 13 year old friends? (I imagine a 13 year old would be very impressed with your credentials).

Maybe the Delta MEC didn't actually use the phase "blow me" to the Northwest pilots but can we extrapolate that it was inferred?

If you're going to insult someone else's intelligence, then maybe you should learn the difference between "implied" and "inferred." Typical of an RJDC wanker, though.

 

[PuffDriver]

If you're going to insult someone else's intelligence, then maybe you should learn the difference between "implied" and "inferred." Typical of an RJDC wanker, though.

C'mon, give him a break. That's all he's got. Well, that and the "anybody who talks to their f/o s about the f/os previous carriers" thingy.

Must be real lonely in that cockpit.

Hook, line, sinker.

 

[N2264J]

If you're going to insult someone else's intelligence, then maybe you should learn the difference between "implied" and "inferred." Typical of an RJDC wanker, though.

Trying to create a distraction here?

Just so you don't misunderstand, I believe the Northwest pilots suspect they got the virtual finger from the Delta MEC.

Let's go back and see what you said about it:

Very hard to do now that DALPA has basically given the finger to the NWA MEC. This was just really bad politics on Lee's part. He should know better. NWA pilots will still be pissed off about this 30 years from now.

It's disappointing to see so many DAL pilots happy with their MEC's actions on this matter. And this is coming from someone who has always been a strong supporter of Captain Moak and the DAL MEC. A very disappointing turn of events.

In other words, we agree and you still want to pick a fight. Is there any question why ALPA is in the dismal shape it's in?

 

[PCL_128]

Trying to create a distraction here?

Just so you don't misunderstand, I believe the Northwest pilots suspect they got the virtual finger from the Delta MEC.

Let's go back and see what you said about it:



In other words, we agree and you still want to pick a fight.

I'll always pick a fight with RJDC losers. But yes, we agree that DALPA screwed up in how they handled this. However, it's my understanding that the two MECs are talking again and trying to work things out. Hopefully there will be some progress this time.