RJDC 04/30/05 Update

[FlyBoeingJets]

This ignore list thingee works well. I was beginning to think I would never use it.

 

[N2264J]

This ignore list thingee works well. I was beginning to think I would never use it.

While Farley is away swilling another beer, anyone care to guess why Southwest Airlines isn't in ALPA?

 

[General Lee]

While he's gone, anyone care to guess why Southwest Airlines isn't in ALPA?

And, any wonder why Southwest, Airtran, and Jetblue don't have aircraft smaller than 100 seats? Southwest and Airtran don't have anything smaller than a 717 or 733, and Airtran ditched their CRJs. I guess low fares and 50 seat jets don't mix. Ask Indy.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[N2264J]

Re: 04/30/05 Update

And, any wonder why Southwest, Airtran, and Jetblue don't have aircraft smaller than 100 seats? Southwest and Airtran don't have anything smaller than a 717 or 733, and Airtran ditched their CRJs. I guess low fares and 50 seat jets don't mix. Ask Indy.

I have no idea what this has to do with my question but I'll give you a clue: it is not because SWA wasn't invited.

 

[FR8mastr]

Well, how about we give Comair all of the 738s and MD88s? Would that make you happy? Sure, we can allow an airline that pays less and gives less benefits to fly larger equipment and displace many mainline pilots, losing those benefits forever. Great. Sounds great. All because some senior guys like Ford and Lawson don't want to be in front of a firing squad during the interview. And, those guys might have to finally pull gear for someone younger than they are.... Sure, bring down the larger equipment, we'll fly it for you---and keep our vacation and weekends off....Lazy jerks! If they want to fly larger planes, they should bite the bullet and interview and come over and start where the rest of us did. But noooooooooo! They shouldn't have to---they spent 10 years in a BANDIT. Great. Yippy. I flew a Dornier 228 and a E120 for years, and I went for it. Grow up boys. Try interviewing.... Continental is hiring---and as soon as you go over there the RJDC will be the LAST thing on your minds. What I say is sooo true.


Bye Bye--General Lee

What does this have to due with D W being a liar? He knows the 190 are not going to be flown at US Airways they will be flown by Republic or whatever name they pick this week. This is the "leader of ALPA" lying not the RJDC. Just so you know, I want the 190's if they are to be, to be flown by ML pilots.

 

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General Lee :

Can't imagine Ford would have much problem getting hired anywhere. His ALPA Safety work alone with the "One Level of Safety" program, the E120 investigation work and other efforts have earned him the respect of some pretty well connected folks. He also was one of the youngest Captains Comair had and probably has well over 10,000 of 121 PIC, yet I think he is still in his 30's. What do you even know about the guy, other than you don't like his ALPA politics?

If it comes to you, me and Dan Ford sending out resumes, I hope they look at mine before they see his.

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Every example of whipsawing on this board is another bottle of Cognac at the next ATA convention.


To misquote WF Buckley, what airline managers have to fear is a nationwide, unified and mobilized pilot force, from the Brasilias to the 777's. Which means they have little to fear....

Huck for ALPA President
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Darn, it is nice to read something from a Boeing driver that understands what this is about.​

 

[General Lee]

General Lee :

Can't imagine Ford would have much problem getting hired anywhere. His ALPA Safety work alone with the "One Level of Safety" program, the E120 investigation work and other efforts have earned him the respect of some pretty well connected folks. He also was one of the youngest Captains Comair had and probably has well over 10,000 of 121 PIC, yet I think he is still in his 30's. What do you even know about the guy, other than you don't like his ALPA politics?

If it comes to you, me and Dan Ford sending out resumes, I hope they look at mine before they see his.

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Sounds like he is a spoiled brat who doesn't want to be an FO again. Doesn't he know that "the way it works" to fly larger aircraft is to interview and get hired at another airline? He is scared of the interview maybe. Maybe he doesn't want to lose his "weekends off". If so, then stay at a regional and TAKE IT. If he wants to fly 737s, then maybe he should interview at Airtran or Southwest---but that would require him TO LOSE ALL WEEKENDS OFF FOR AWHILE. He is trying to get it both ways---keeping his seniority and trying to fly larger aircraft. That is what is wrong here. I am sure he is a smarter than average guy, and probably really good at flying RJs. He might be the BEST RJ PILOT EVER! (after you fins)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

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He is trying to get it both ways---keeping his seniority and trying to fly larger aircraft.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Where did he write that? For the ten zillion'th time, ALPA mergers are most often based on equipment, or pay. Dan would have been stapled if his PID request had been granted.

The only thing that would have changed is your pilots would not have been furloughed and CHQ would not be operating the next generation of Delta's narrow body fleet.

 

[michael707767]

Where did he write that? For the ten zillion'th time, ALPA mergers are most often based on equipment, or pay. Dan would have been stapled if his PID request had been granted.

Probably true. But then the next day he no doubt would have filed a lawsuit asking for DOH. The DOH defense coalition.

 

[surplus1]

I am sure he is a smarter than average guy,
Bye Bye--General Lee

I'm not so sure if he's smarter than the average guy Gemeral, but he sure is smarter than you.

Sorry, you left yourself wide open and I just couldn't resist. Feel the love?

 

[surplus1]

Probably true. But then the next day he no doubt would have filed a lawsuit asking for DOH. The DOH defense coalition.

Hey Mike,

Did anybody ever win one of those "DOH lawsuits" you keep talking about? Are you sure your argument isn't just specious?

 

[General Lee]

I'm not so sure if he's smarter than the average guy Gemeral, but he sure is smarter than you.

Sorry, you left yourself wide open and I just couldn't resist. Feel the love?

Ouch. Come on there Surplus, not you smacking me now..... I am smart, smarter than the average GENIOUS. My debating skills are legendary---I am a debating MASTER. I am a MASTER DEBATOR. I debate the masses--I AM A MASS DEBATOR. And, the name is General Lee--although my wife thinks I am a "gem."


Fins,

So, Danny Ford wouldn't want larger aircraft? Wait, he is just a team player and doesn't want to interview anywhere else, right? What does he want ALPA to do again? He wants them to fight for larger aircraft for Comair, while ALPA is representing our needs for better scope. Why didn't Comair get better scope for themselves in the last contract after the strike? CHQ wouldn't be a DCI carrier then, but instead Comair and their pilots wanted the $$$$$. We have scope at DL, and you guys (ASA/Comair) should have gotten your own.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[mach zero]

Sounds like he is a spoiled brat who doesn't want to be an FO again. Doesn't he know that "the way it works" to fly larger aircraft is to interview and get hired at another airline? He is scared of the interview maybe. Maybe he doesn't want to lose his "weekends off". If so, then stay at a regional and TAKE IT. If he wants to fly 737s, then maybe he should interview at Airtran or Southwest---but that would require him TO LOSE ALL WEEKENDS OFF FOR AWHILE. He is trying to get it both ways---keeping his seniority and trying to fly larger aircraft. That is what is wrong here. I am sure he is a smarter than average guy, and probably really good at flying RJs. He might be the BEST RJ PILOT EVER! (after you fins)


Bye Bye--General Lee

Well I have been at SWA for a little over 7 months now and I have weekends off. I don't consider 7 months to be "AWHILE."

 

[surplus1]

Ouch. Come on there Surplus, not you smacking me now..... I am smart, smarter than the average GENIOUS. My debating skills are legendary---I am a debating MASTER. I am a MASTER DEBATOR. I debate the masses--I AM A MASS DEBATOR. And, the name is General Lee--although my wife thinks I am a "gem."

Bye Bye--General Lee

General Lee ............ I must agree!

PS. I see your company has just formed a new alliance with the "Regional Airline of the Year." There must be something in the water after all. Your management seems to be expert in the Limbo, as in "how low can you go". [Are you old enough to remember Chubby Checker?]

 

[N2264J]

Re: RJDC 04/30/05

I see your company has just formed a new alliance with the "Regional Airline of the Year."

ALPA casting a blind eye on alter ego airlines is catching up with the "leadership." Looking the other way while management creates alter ego airlines or actually facilitating their creation with flawed scope clauses that drives flying off the property and then demanding furloughees be put in those seats, is coming home to roost.

Freedom operates 90 seaters (as well as Republic). Just wait until the next time a "legacy" goes to the table to negotiate rates. Alter ego is not just a "regional" problem anymore and the Delta pilots, who allowed it to happen for embellishments to their contract, have no bargaining levelage to stop it. So how's that "brand scope" working out for ya, Generally? Some union.

So, you wanna get drunk?