Rhino Aviation

[FlyingSkip]

Dude---every single "fact" that you have brought up I've refuted, and you've never even challenged me because you know where the honesty lies! The guy you supposedly talked to that had been fired doesn't exist---I could show you company files that would back me up, do you evn have initials, a name, a physical description, anything? Of course not, because you make up things to suit your argument and fuel your anger---over and over and over again. Face it, G-Man---everyone's got your number! They know you for the whiner that you are, and that burns you up because you wanted a forum to air your grievances with Rhino/SATSAir and now everybody knows why there was a problem---cuz you have a sh*tty attitude! Merry Christmas, John, take everyone's good advice and move on with your life!!!

 

[AerroMatt]

Say Skip. I'm wondering if you know anything about this company up in GFK: Expanded Air Service Enterprise. They appear to be doing, or setting up to do the same thing your outfit is doing in the mid-atlantic. Interesting set-up, do you know if they have future plans to put bigger equipment online if the demand arises?

 

[FlyingSkip]

Matt, From the looks of the website I'd say that they're trying to use the SATS concept to sell themselves to businesses as a consulting firm to decide whether or not the PtoP system utilizing smaller aircraft would work. I SEEM to remember their name being mentioned at the SATS Demonstration in Danville VA early this past summer, but I'm not sure if I'm confusing them with someone else, and the website doesn't seem to highlight any flying services or specific airplanes. I'm pretty ignorant of a lot of our competition at this point, although I try to find out as much as I can---I got hold of a copy of DayJet's Biz Plan from some guy up in Danville and was kinda surprised that although they plan on using Eclipse jets to get the longer legs and fasgter speeds, they plan on two pilot cockpits and putting strangers in the airplane together to cut costs. At least as far as I've ever been informed, we have no plans on going that route for the foreseeable future. Who knows though---with all th new planes out there, the competition should be out in force soon! I know that some Air Force Reserve guys I met in Danville were waiting on a 135 Certificate to use Cirri and do exactly the same thing we're doing, just basing in Jersey and Connecticut and trying to grab the Northeast market. Time will tell---our big "non" secret is that we'll be utilizing jets as second tier, and maybe even first tier in the future, when they can make them economical enough and single-pilot friendly to fit in with the way we're flying now. Supposedly the jet Cirrus is designing will incorporate some of those design features---and if not, I'm sure someone will!

Of course, as a standard disclaimer, I am NOT management at SATSAir, I am not privy to any private information and know nothing more than my Labrador Retriever where the company will be next week, let alone in a year, two or ten! Any views expressed are simply informed rumor, wishful thinking and obviously influenced by th strength of the Margaritas Jackie was pouring for me tonight at Happy Hour!

 

[Flyingdutchman]

Skip -

Please check your PM.

 

[jelloshotpilot]

I agree with skip. i think g-man has a bad attitude. he is always blaming everything on everyone else.

 

[Herman Bloom]

Anyone know the payscale (roughly, at least)? Also, what is the schedule like? Would it be possible/are they willing to hire part-time "back-up" pilots?

Thanks in advance

 

[G-force]

Pilot Bases

So what are the current pilot bases?

They were at GMU,TYS,MYR,DAN, but DAN has been dropped,the reason,NO BUSINESS,now they are at BUY.According to airport mgmt,its the same story there too.

See other posts on this THREAD.

 

[contrailflyer]

jelloshotpilot

I agree with skip. i think g-man has a bad attitude. he is always blaming everything on everyone else.

Rob,I don't think you should blame anyone for a bad attitude besides yourself.Who ran away most of the business at the FBO in Lincoln Nebraska.

 

[jelloshotpilot]

It's just business!

I didn't make anyone or tell anyone to leave. I just suggested that they get the hell out if they don't like how I run things and most people took my advice!

 

[G-force]

2nd Opinion

I didn't make anyone or tell anyone to leave. I just suggested that they get the hell out if they don't like how I run things and most people took my advice!

It seems alot of people on this thread are now GIVING YOU SOME ADVICE,are you going to take it or not?????

 

[jelloshotpilot]

3rd opinion

It seems alot of people on this thread are now GIVING YOU SOME ADVICE,are you going to take it or not?????

What, you mean like all the friendly advice you seem to be getting from everyone who ever gets on this website? Doesn't seem like you are very well liked either!

 

[AerroMatt]

OK, this thread has devolved into a Pi$$ing contest between two fellas. Time to close it down and let the Pi$$ing contest go elsewhere.

 

[FlyingSkip]

I agree---you guys go fight on your own turf, and anyone that wants to talk about Air Taxi, Rhino or SATSAir feel free to go on with the conversation somewheres else. Peace out. Anyone looking for a job or wanting o know more feel free to PM me---some already have and I appreciate the interest---any time I can help get a decent guy to work alongside of me, I'm willing to help the process along! We're hiring, and I want god guys on our team!

 

[jelloshotpilot]

aeromatt and flyingskip, noboby is stopping you from writing what you want. Ifyou don't like what we say...don't read it!

 

[lonelyguy]

FlyingSkip

I agree---you guys go fight on your own turf, and anyone that wants to talk about Air Taxi, Rhino or SATSAir feel free to go on with the conversation somewheres else. Peace out. Anyone looking for a job or wanting o know more feel free to PM me---some already have and I appreciate the interest---any time I can help get a decent guy to work alongside of me, I'm willing to help the process along! We're hiring, and I want god guys on our team!

This is just an observation,why would anyone want to fly a Cirrus on 135 charter.Most pilots would rather fly for a regional airline with better equiptment and advancement opportunities.

 

[G-force]

FlyingSkips Spin

Dude---every single "fact" that you have brought up I've refuted, and you've never even challenged me because you know where the honesty lies! The guy you supposedly talked to that had been fired doesn't exist---I could show you company files that would back me up, do you evn have initials, a name, a physical description, anything? Of course not, because you make up things to suit your argument and fuel your anger---over and over and over again. Face it, G-Man---everyone's got your number! They know you for the whiner that you are, and that burns you up because you wanted a forum to air your grievances with Rhino/SATSAir and now everybody knows why there was a problem---cuz you have a sh*tty attitude! Merry Christmas, John, take everyone's good advice and move on with your life!!!

It would be nice if you would simply tell the truth that Rhino Aviation is simply a VFR DAY ONLY operation.

 

[FlyingSkip]

Huh????

Man, I shouldn't even waste my time but I gotta do it...

You're wrong, G-Spot, you don't see what we do or when we do it or where we fly cuz you WERE FIRED! I've returned from flights at 0300, taken off at 0400, flown down to mins on more than a few occasions and regularly "fight" with the 350 and Citation pilots for the FBO umbrellas when I'm getting passengers in/out of the aircraft on IFR days! Would I rather fly on a CAVU VFR day very time---absolutely! Do I have that luxury---not. So I go fly passengers when and where they want to go. It's my job, g-spot, just like a lot of the guys on here.

Dude, when I first started reading your rants I got irritated---now I just laugh! You are so transparent and so full of semi-solid brown matter that you amuse me. Go find a job, man---seriously! You need something to fill your time rather than hanging onto this thread about a job that didn't work out what, 7 months ago? Grow up, move on and quit lying about things you obviously know very little about....

 

[FlyingSkip]

Quick Answer

This is just an observation,why would anyone want to fly a Cirrus on 135 charter.Most pilots would rather fly for a regional airline with better equiptment and advancement opportunities.

I wouldn't admit, from what I know about the "security" and payscales at the regionals, that they have better opportunities for advancement. I'd also argue (over a beer with a smile!) that they're flying better equipment---we have TAWS, TCAS, real-time NEXRAD weather---a lot of my buddies that have gone to the regionals don't the things available to tem that we have onboard a SE prop.

Plus, I got out of flying for ten years cuz I had no interest in flying for the airlines---every person is different, and to me it was better to not fly than to fly for an airline. I flew in the military and KNEW that for me there was no way I was going to go in that direction when I could do something else. This is different, it's new and (I think!) it's the future of aviation---maybe not any particular company or any particular airframe, but the concept of Point to Point in economical, safe, single-pilot aircraft. A lot of guys want to pursue the airline track, but there's a lot of guys who just don't fit into that mold.

Even flying in the military, I quickly learned that no two pilots are alike---we all have different goals, different opinions and different strengths. Isn't that awesome that we work in an arena with so many different opportunities?!

 

[G-force]

Hard Sell Spin Artist

Man, I shouldn't even waste my time but I gotta do it...

You're wrong, G-Spot, you don't see what we do or when we do it or where we fly cuz you WERE FIRED! I've returned from flights at 0300, taken off at 0400, flown down to mins on more than a few occasions and regularly "fight" with the 350 and Citation pilots for the FBO umbrellas when I'm getting passengers in/out of the aircraft on IFR days! Would I rather fly on a CAVU VFR day very time---absolutely! Do I have that luxury---not. So I go fly passengers when and where they want to go. It's my job, g-spot, just like a lot of the guys on here.

Dude, when I first started reading your rants I got irritated---now I just laugh! You are so transparent and so full of semi-solid brown matter that you amuse me. Go find a job, man---seriously! You need something to fill your time rather than hanging onto this thread about a job that didn't work out what, 7 months ago? Grow up, move on and quit lying about things you obviously know very little about....

It' s amazing the hard selling job that is being done on this thread about an operation that is of major concern for a lot of pilots,mainly safety,an operation that should be limited to DAY-VFR ONLY,an aircraft which is NOT CERTIFIED IN KNOWN-ICING CONDITIONS(PT.135),but has a very good avionics panel.No mention that if one is TOO LOW and/or TOO FAST,the PARACHUTE cannot be used.Our Spin artist sells everything but leaves out pertinent facts about SAFETY.When will these issues be addressed??????Also the $6500.00 PFT contract isn't mentioned either.

 

[FlyingSkip]

I give up...

I give up---you win. You're right, it's a terrible airplane, it's a terrible idea, we shouldn't be allowed to fly paper airplanes let alone carry pax, and we dribble down our legs when we p*ss. You're right, you win, you're awesome and we all suck and this is absolutely the last thing I will say so blather on to your heart's content. Congratulations...do you feel better now? I hope so. Have a wonderful day.

 

[Photoflight]

The best thing is....this thread was about 2 replys long a buried deep so nobody really cared or even payed attention. Now however it looks like two guys with sand in thier respective vaginas. Basically you've made yourselves look bad and the company look bad.

*cheers*

 

[G-force]

Rhino Aviation & PFT contracts

Any company that does not mention a training contract up front- preferably in the ad, definitely before the interview- is full of it. I have been in that situation before.

It seems like this operator still has not addressed the problem of PFT's,they are so busy trying to SELL this operation, they conveniently forgot.Does anyone on this website actually think that $6500.00 is FAIR for a SE-piston aircraft????? and this contract is according to Rhino mgmt DUE and PAYABLE if the pilot leaves in less than one years time????Capt1124 had it right all along.
This training is only worth $2000.00,mgmt pockets the rest,I would suspect,but $4500.00 is still a BIG DIFFERENCE to pilots that cannot afford to pay.

 

[lonelyguy]

G-force

It seems like this operator still has not addressed the problem of PFT's,they are so busy trying to SELL this operation, they conveniently forgot.Does anyone on this website actually think that $6500.00 is FAIR for a SE-piston aircraft????? and this contract is according to Rhino mgmt DUE and PAYABLE if the pilot leaves in less than one years time????Capt1124 had it right all along.
This training is only worth $2000.00,mgmt pockets the rest,I would suspect,but $4500.00 is still a BIG DIFFERENCE to pilots that cannot afford to pay.

If Rhino Aviation was such a bad deal,why did you want to work for them until you were terminated.Just wanting to know the method to your madness.

 

[DonTrump]

G-force, need a job? Let me know. I hear you really know what you're doing. I got a deal for ya.

 

[G-force]

Overdone

I give up---you win. You're right, it's a terrible airplane, it's a terrible idea, we shouldn't be allowed to fly paper airplanes let alone carry pax, and we dribble down our legs when we p*ss. You're right, you win, you're awesome and we all suck and this is absolutely the last thing I will say so blather on to your heart's content. Congratulations...do you feel better now? I hope so. Have a wonderful day.

Now that this operation is been oversold to the hilt,one wonders are you going to continue to be the Chief of SPIN for Rhino Aviation/SATSAir?? or are you going to let someone else have a turn??

The General Public still has an ADVERSE OPINION of SE-piston aircraft,but the Cirrus is a good aircraft..for VFR-DAY only operations,and it should be used in that way.

In order to be successful in the charter business,an operator must have repeat business.
I do not see this operation doing this in the long run.

 

[G-force]

Whatever??????????

Whatever happened to "Flying Skip" I wonder??????? :angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:laugh::laugh:

 

[emspilot 01]

If Rhino Aviation was such a bad deal,why did you want to work for them until you were terminated.Just wanting to know the method to your madness.

Special G-Farce was fired from every Part 135 Operation in the country. There is no way anyone in their right mind would hire him...:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:uzi:

 

[G-force]

Dunderhead/ass-kisser!!!!

Completely FALSE,besides there is abolutely NO way for a dunderhead/ass-kisser like you to "prove it"!!!!!! :laugh::laugh:

 

[emspilot 01]

Completely FALSE,besides there is abolutely NO way for a dunderhead/ass-kisser like you to "prove it"!!!!!! :laugh::laugh:

Hey Special dude, I am pretty sure we have "proven it" on past post...:angryfire:angryfire:uzi::bomb:

 

[G-force]

Banned!!!

Keep it up,you'll get banned again!!!!:laugh::laugh: